{"conversationCode":"025-073","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":73,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-073","startDateTime":"1972-06-20T14:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-20T14:54:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Jun-1972","startTime":"10:51 AM","endDate":"20-Jun-1972","endTime":"10:54 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Morgan, Edward L.;","description":"On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Edward L. Morgan talked on the telephone from 10:51 am to 10:54 am. 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