Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 25 › Conversation 025-083
Nixon phone call with MacGregor on Vietnam War and Legislative Strategy
Tuesday, June 20, 1972 · 1:45 PM–1:49 PM ET · White House Telephone · 4 min
AI Summary
President Nixon and Clark MacGregor consulted regarding legislative strategy and the administration’s response to ongoing congressional debates over Vietnam policy. The discussion touched upon the timing of legislative actions, the effectiveness of specific messaging proposed in a memorandum by Patrick J. Buchanan, and the political implications of compromise on war-related votes. Nixon emphasized a cautious approach, advising against certain public statements while evaluating how congressional movements might influence North Vietnamese strategy.
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NARA Description
On June 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone from 1:45 pm to 1:49 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-083 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 25-83
Date: June 20, 1972
Time: 1:45-1:49 pm
Location: White House Telephone
The President talked with Clark MacGregor.
[See Conversation No. 342-24D]
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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 10/30/2017.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[025-083-w001]
[Duration: 27s]
Clark MacGregor’s trip to New Orleans
-Trip summary
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President's call to Hugh Scott
Legislation
-Timing
-Patrick J. Buchanan
-Memorandum
-Language
-Value
-Michael J. Mansfield
Congress
-Vietnam
-Negotiations
-Timing of Congressional actions
-North Vietnamese strategy
-US position
-Opposition's suggestions
-Vote in Congress
-CompromiseAlso recorded on June 20, 1972
- 025-079 1:30 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott talked on the telephone from 1:30 pm to 1:35 pm.
- 342-023 1:30 PM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Hugh Scott met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 1:30 pm to 1:35 pm.
- 342-024 1:35 PM · 28 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Joseph Trerotola, White House operator, unknown person(s), and Clark MacGregor met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 1:35 pm and 2:10 pm.
- 025-080 1:38 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Joseph Trerotola talked on the telephone from 1:38 pm to 1:39 pm.
- 025-081 1:39 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 1:45 pm.
- 025-082 1:39 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:39 pm and 1:45 pm.
- 025-084 2:10 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:16 pm.
- 342-025 2:10 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:16 pm.
Cite this conversation
Conversation 025-083, June 20, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-083 (accessed September 30, 2026).