{"conversationCode":"025-116","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":116,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-116","startDateTime":"1972-06-22T13:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-22T13:50:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Jun-1972","startTime":"9:45 AM","endDate":"22-Jun-1972","endTime":"9:50 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On June 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 9:45 am to 9:50 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-116 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 25-116\n\nDate: June 22, 1972\nTime: 9:45-9:50 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 344-14C]\n\n     The President’s forthcoming press conference\n          -Timing\n          -Wording\n          -Ziegler’s comments\n          -Charles W. Colson\n          -The President’s comments","filename":["025-116.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:46:08","tapeEnd":"04:48:15","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"025-115","nextCode":"025-117","transcript":[{"start":0.23,"end":7.4,"text":"Hi."},{"start":7.42,"end":14.07,"text":"Hello."},{"start":14.1,"end":23.85,"text":"Hi, Ron."},{"start":23.87,"end":24.87,"text":"You know we're going to have a... Let me have one."},{"start":24.89,"end":25.09,"text":"All right."},{"start":25.11,"end":25.31,"text":"All right."},{"start":32.63,"end":59.16,"text":"."},{"start":59.18,"end":59.2,"text":"."},{"start":59.22,"end":59.24,"text":"."},{"start":59.26,"end":59.28,"text":"."},{"start":59.3,"end":59.32,"text":"."},{"start":59.52,"end":80.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":80.22,"end":80.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":82.48,"end":108,"text":"Oh, you did."},{"start":108.02,"end":109.04,"text":"Yeah, well, I don't think I'll get into it, though."},{"start":109.06,"end":109.42,"text":"What do you think?"},{"start":109.44,"end":110.39,"text":"Well, I don't think you have to know, you know."},{"start":110.41,"end":111.43,"text":"But again, I think that there's a few other things."},{"start":111.45,"end":111.79,"text":"But I don't know."},{"start":111.81,"end":112.07,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":112.64,"end":126.73,"text":"yeah okay"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler consulted regarding the administration's messaging strategy for an upcoming press conference. They discussed the specific timing and wording of the President's remarks, while also briefly touching upon the involvement of Charles W. Colson. The pair focused on refining public communication tactics to manage the anticipated media cycle.","topics":["Press conference","Public relations","Ronald Ziegler","Charles W. Colson","White House messaging"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:12:59.992Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-conference","public-relations","ronald-l-ziegler","charles-w-colson","white-house-messaging"],"audioDurationSec":127,"audioFiles":[{"file":"025-116.mp3","bytes":3046294,"durationSec":126.87,"bitrate":192083,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.841Z","transcriptGapSeconds":73,"transcriptGapShare":0.57,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/025-116.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-116","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/025/conversation-025-116","catalogNaId":417193855,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417193855","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}