{"conversationCode":"025-138","tapeNumber":25,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-025-138","startDateTime":"1972-06-21T19:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-21T19:30:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jun-1972","startTime":"3:15 PM","endDate":"21-Jun-1972","endTime":"3:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:30 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 025-138 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 25-138\n\nDate: June 21, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:15 pm and 3:30 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Ronald L. Ziegler’s location","filename":["025-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:19:44","tapeEnd":"04:19:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"025-137","nextCode":"026-001","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":6.58,"text":"Hello."},{"start":6.6,"end":6.95,"text":"Follow that sign."},{"start":6.96,"end":7.31,"text":"Follow that sign."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to determine the current location of Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The brief exchange was strictly administrative, focused on establishing communication with a key staff member. No further policy discussions or significant decisions occurred during this brief request for information.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House operations","Staff communication","Administrative request"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:14:57.188Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-operations","staff-communication","administrative-request"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"025-138.mp3","bytes":260178,"durationSec":10.77,"bitrate":193188,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.841Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/025-138.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/025-138","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/25/conversation-025-138","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}