{"conversationCode":"026-012","tapeNumber":26,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-026-012","startDateTime":"1972-06-27T16:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-27T17:36:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jun-1972","startTime":"12:03 PM","endDate":"27-Jun-1972","endTime":"1:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On June 27, 1972, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 1:36 pm. 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Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 743-6C]\n\n     The President’s baseball greats list\n          -Pre-war relief pitcher\n               -Hugh Casey\n               -Mace Brown\n               -“Doc” Crandall\n               -Records\n               -Crandall\n                     -New York Giants\n               -Casey\n               -Brown's record\n               -Crandall's record\n\n                                          (rev. Jan-02)\n\n                 -Casey's record\n           -Pittsburgh relief pitcher\n                 -Elroy Face","filename":["026a.mp3","026b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:12:06","tapeEnd":"00:14:27","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"026-011","nextCode":"026-013","tapeTranscriptFile":"026a.mp3,026b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":721.18,"end":722.98,"text":"Ziggler, os gwelwch."},{"start":723,"end":723.88,"text":"Iawn, Prif Weinidog."},{"start":723.9,"end":736.65,"text":"Ziggler, os gwelwch."},{"start":736.69,"end":736.85,"text":"Ron?"},{"start":737.01,"end":737.89,"text":"Iawn, Prif Weinidog."},{"start":737.99,"end":741.89,"text":"Mae'r Prif Weinidog wedi dweud i chi beth oedd y ffitio llawr i'r Llywodraeth Cymru cyn-war."},{"start":742.29,"end":743.17,"text":"Ychydig munud."},{"start":743.53,"end":748.46,"text":"Roedd y memw yn dod i mewn, gadewch i mi gael hi i mewn."},{"start":748.48,"end":749.18,"text":"O, ble mae'r memw honno?"},{"start":751.76,"end":753.28,"text":"Wel, gadewch i mi roi copi o hwn yn gyflym."},{"start":754.37,"end":755.29,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":755.31,"end":755.89,"text":"Na, dweud wrthi i mi."},{"start":755.93,"end":757.17,"text":"Wel, mae gen i dri sylwadau."},{"start":757.19,"end":758.29,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi roi copi o hwn yn gyflym."},{"start":758.47,"end":759.39,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":759.41,"end":759.79,"text":"Na, dweud wrthi."},{"start":759.81,"end":762.69,"text":"Wel, mae gen i dri sylwadau."},{"start":762.71,"end":764.91,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":764.93,"end":767.49,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":767.63,"end":769.23,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":769.25,"end":770.69,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":770.71,"end":772.33,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":772.35,"end":774.11,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":774.13,"end":775.25,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau i mi ei roi drwy?"},{"start":775.27,"end":775.71,"text":"Ydych chi"},{"start":776.35,"end":779.56,"text":"Nawr, rydw i wedi cael eu rhaglenni, maen nhw eisiau mynd i edrych arnyn nhw."},{"start":779.58,"end":781.38,"text":"Mae ganddyn nhw'r rhaglenni os ydych chi eisiau."},{"start":781.4,"end":783.96,"text":"Ydych chi eisiau iddyn nhw ddod â nhw i mewn?"},{"start":784.76,"end":785.64,"text":"Pwy yw Doc Crandall?"},{"start":786.66,"end":792.17,"text":"Doc Crandall... Doc Crandall yw un o'r... Doc Crandall yw rhaglenni'r Giants New York."},{"start":792.25,"end":793.79,"text":"Giants, rhaglenni."},{"start":794.15,"end":795.75,"text":"Crandall oedd yn y bôn yn gychwyn."},{"start":795.77,"end":796.95,"text":"Roedd yn gychwyn?"},{"start":797.41,"end":798.63,"text":"Yn enwedig yn ei hwynau gorau."},{"start":798.73,"end":800.37,"text":"Yn ei hwynau gorau, iawn."},{"start":800.41,"end":801.17,"text":"Beth am Casey?"},{"start":802.57,"end":805.93,"text":"Huw Casey, pa un sy'n dod ychwanegol yn y recordiau?"},{"start":806.69,"end":807.86,"text":"Wel, Mace Brown, 176 a gafodd 57."},{"start":807.93,"end":809.25,"text":"Brown, 176 a gafodd 57?"},{"start":809.32,"end":809.41,"text":"Ie."},{"start":809.43,"end":810.34,"text":"Beth oedd Casey?"},{"start":810.38,"end":811.7,"text":"Doc Crandall, 106 a gafodd 61."},{"start":811.74,"end":812.26,"text":"Crandall oedd 106, 61."},{"start":812.36,"end":813.1,"text":"Beth oedd Casey?"},{"start":813.12,"end":813.86,"text":"Casey, 175 a gafodd 42."},{"start":813.9,"end":813.86,"text":"175, 42."},{"start":814.02,"end":815.88,"text":"Felly mae ganddyn nhw'r record llwyddiant gorau."},{"start":831.52,"end":834.48,"text":"Beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher?"},{"start":834.5,"end":837.38,"text":"Fface, beth yw ei enw cyntaf?"},{"start":837.44,"end":837.92,"text":"Mace Brown?"},{"start":838.76,"end":839.42,"text":"Mace Brown."},{"start":839.7,"end":842.12,"text":"Nid yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher."},{"start":842.14,"end":843.59,"text":"Mae ei enw diwethaf yn Fface."},{"start":843.61,"end":844.87,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod, Bob."},{"start":844.89,"end":847.21,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher."},{"start":847.23,"end":850.35,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher."},{"start":850.37,"end":852.11,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher."},{"start":852.13,"end":853.89,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher."},{"start":853.91,"end":857.22,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r enw o'r Pitchburg Relief Pitcher"},{"start":858.17,"end":860.72,"text":"Pitched about 1950 for Pittsburgh."},{"start":860.74,"end":861.88,"text":"But he wanted pre-war."},{"start":863.48,"end":865.6,"text":"That's where I'm asking a different question now."},{"start":865.8,"end":866.14,"text":"Okay."},{"start":866.24,"end":870.8,"text":"What is the first name of the Pittsburgh relief pitcher whose last name is Face?"},{"start":870.82,"end":871.74,"text":"All right, fine, good."},{"start":871.98,"end":872.96,"text":"What is his first name?"},{"start":873.04,"end":873.42,"text":"Right on."},{"start":873.56,"end":874.5,"text":"Get that right for you."},{"start":874.75,"end":875.37,"text":"Roger."},{"start":880.23,"end":880.81,"text":"Ziegler, please."},{"start":880.83,"end":881.25,"text":"Ziegler."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":704.875,"end":883.875,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"H. 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