{"conversationCode":"026-056","tapeNumber":26,"conversationNumber":56,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-026-056","startDateTime":"1972-06-30T19:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-01T12:01:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jun-1972","startTime":"3:28 PM","endDate":"1-Jul-1972","endTime":"8:01 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":null,"description":"The recording device engaged on an unknown date, sometime between 3:28 pm on June 30, 1972 and 8:01 am on July 1, 1972, but the conversation appears to be blank. 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Dwi'n meddwl bod hi'n dal ar y flwyddyn o'r Senat."},{"start":8537.74,"end":8540.44,"text":"Dwi ddim yn meddwl bod hi'n dod o fewn y Senat."},{"start":8543.97,"end":8545.11,"text":"Dyna beth rydw i'n ei olygu."},{"start":8545.15,"end":8546.01,"text":"Ie, na, mae'n ar y llawr o'r Senedd."},{"start":8546.05,"end":8547.99,"text":"Ond os yw'r Senedd yn gwblhau hynny, mae'n rhaid i ni fod ati."},{"start":8548.01,"end":8548.93,"text":"Ie, yna byddai'n bosibl i ni wneud hynny."},{"start":8548.95,"end":8549.51,"text":"Ie, cymryd hŷn o'r oedolion."},{"start":8549.53,"end":8549.57,"text":"Ie."},{"start":8549.59,"end":8552.09,"text":"Rwy'n credu bod gennym am bryd o 06, 08, 09 diwrnod pan fyddwn ni'n gallu rhedeg heb"},{"start":8560.31,"end":8562.29,"text":"Mae hynny'n ddifrifol iawn, ond mae'n ddifrifol iawn."},{"start":8562.31,"end":8565.98,"text":"Felly, os ydych chi'n cael ysgrifennu sylwad a neges, gallwch fynd i'r cyhoedd am hynny."},{"start":8566.03,"end":8568.93,"text":"Hefyd, rwy'n gweithio i lai'r cwrdd o'r hyn a ddweud ystod y nos diwethaf."},{"start":8569.01,"end":8575.08,"text":"Ond os yw'r 20 %, mae'n anodd iawn i'w wneud, ond rwy'n hoffi gweld hynny'n cael ei wneud, ond mae'n anodd iawn iawn i'w wneud."},{"start":8575.12,"end":8576.1,"text":"Felly, rydym yn gweld."},{"start":8576.16,"end":8577.5,"text":"A byddaf yn gofyn hynny i'r cyhoedd."},{"start":8577.52,"end":8578.8,"text":"Ond os ydyn nhw'n ychwanegu 3 miliwn o"},{"start":8585.68,"end":8589.2,"text":"Rwy'n credu y gallwch chi fynd i'r cyhoedd yn ffordd cyffredinol ar hyn o bryd."},{"start":8589.22,"end":8593.52,"text":"Mae'r broblemau cymdeithasol... Beth am eu bod nhw'n ceisio... Beth am eu bod nhw'n ceisio'u llwyddo gyda'r un arall?"},{"start":8593.54,"end":8597.41,"text":"Wel... Allwn ni... Allwch chi ddod o hyd i'r clerc a gweld os yw'r Senat yn gallu'i llwyddo yn gwaethaf?"},{"start":8597.42,"end":8600.35,"text":"Ie, gallaf yn sicr yn ceisio, os ydw i'n mynd i mewn i'r gategoriad hwnnw."},{"start":8600.37,"end":8600.53,"text":"Ie, ie."},{"start":8605.18,"end":8607.1,"text":"Ac rydyn ni'n mynd i ofal yr un arall hefyd."},{"start":8607.12,"end":8611.11,"text":"Dwi ddim yn gallu deall pam nad yw Griffin yn rhoi'r peth busio arno."},{"start":8611.31,"end":8612.03,"text":"Wel, dylai'i wneud."},{"start":8612.11,"end":8614.29,"text":"Roedd yn dechrau gyda hwnnw ar un pwynt."},{"start":8614.33,"end":8616.24,"text":"Mae'n wych, mae'n mynd i wneud i'r bobl gwaith."},{"start":8616.26,"end":8616.56,"text":"Diolch yn fawr."},{"start":8681.61,"end":8681.74,"text":"Diolch."},{"start":8725.2,"end":8725.33,"text":"Diolch."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":8466,"end":11269,"startMethod":"tape_time","endMethod":"tape_time"},"transcriptConfidence":"low","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"Unnamed participants discuss legislative strategy regarding a potential veto, focusing on the political and budgetary implications of a Senate proposal involving Medicare funding. 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