Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 26 › Conversation 026-058

Nixon phone call with an unidentified caller on CIA and Soviet Union

Saturday, July 1, 1972 · 1:05 PM–11:59 PM ET · White House Telephone

ParticipantsNot recordedConversation026-058 on Tape 26 (tape position 03:20:54–04:01:58)StartSaturday, July 1, 1972 at 1:05 PMEndSaturday, July 1, 1972 at 11:59 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 026-058 ↗

AI Summary

This discussion involves General Vernon Walters regarding an initiative to provide the CIA with insights into Soviet leadership, following a request from CIA Director Richard Helms. The speakers explore strategies for managing sensitive intelligence sharing and maintaining operational security while coordinating with external officials. The primary objective is to ensure that information is disseminated carefully to protect the agency from leaks while leveraging high-level geopolitical assessments.

Audio

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Transcript (AI-generated)

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3:21:00General Walters, sir.
3:21:02Hello.
3:21:02General Walters.
3:21:05Roedd ymgynghoriad yn dod i mewn o Helms am 4 neu 5 diwrnod yn ôl, ac fe wnaethon nhw ddweud y byddai'n ddefnyddiol iawn os oeddai'r CIA wedi cael rhywfaint o adlewyrchu o fi a Henry.
3:21:24yn ymwneud â'r arweinwyr Sofietaidd, rydych chi'n gwybod, i ddatblygu'r math o bethau rydych chi'n eu cael arnyn nhw.
3:21:30Mae'n allan o'r wlad rwy'n ei chael ac rydw i'n gadael i'r Caeliffoniaid allan yno.
3:21:35Rwy'n credu, os allech chi ddod â neges i'w ddweud, ac mae hyn hefyd ar gyfer eich gwybodaeth, os allech chi gydnabod grŵp mawr iawn, rwy'n golygu, efallai, chi'n gwybod, hanner o ddew.
3:21:45Rwy, wrth gwrs, mae gennyf fy nghymrydion ei hun.
3:21:51a byddwn i'n hapus i eistedd i lawr a mynd amdanyn nhw a chyfathrebu â'r bobl hyn.
3:21:54Mae'r pwynt pwysicaf am hyn yw ei fod yn gallu cael ei wneud dim ond os oeddwn i'n gallu cael gwahaniaeth gwirioneddol ar y secyrfa oherwydd bydd unrhyw beth yn llwyddo allan, fel rydych chi'n gwybod beth rydw i'n golygu, efallai y byddai'n anodd iawn.
3:22:15Wel, mae'r Prif Weinidog yn meddwl bod hwn yn hyn, ac mae'r arall yn hwn ac hwn.
3:22:17Felly, erbyn hyn, dydw i ddim yn gwybod a yw hynny'r unig rheswm sydd gen i. Wrth gwrs, dydw i ddim wedi cyflawni'r Adran Gwleidyddol ar fy marn, oherwydd rwy'n gwybod y bydd hi'n ffurfio.
3:22:27Beth ydych chi'n meddwl am hyn?
3:22:27Wel, rwy'n meddwl bod gennym un neu ddwy cyfrifon cyffredinol iawn fel hyn, a gallwn eu cadw'n ddiddorol iawn.
3:22:32Wel, rwy'n gofyn i chi gael cymaint â Dick a'i ddweud wrtho'i fod gen i'n
3:22:42fel pan maen nhw'n cyflwyno rhywun fel swyddog cadarnhaol y tu allan, fel Pedersen, i'w roi'r pethau o'r bwysleidfaoedd rydych chi wedi'u rhoi i mi.
3:22:49Ac mae'n debyg, gallaf adlewyrchu rhai o'r pethau hynny.
3:22:52Nid yw rhai o'r pethau hynny'n cywir, oherwydd doedd pobl ddim yn gwybod.
3:22:56Ond byddai'r pethau pwysleidfaoedd yn bwysleidfaol, a fyddai'n cael eu rhoi i reolwyr gwahanol, a fyddai'n cael eu rhoi i swyddog cadarnhaol.
3:23:02Yn enwedig, byddai'n cael eu rhannu yn unig ar fyny.
3:23:04Ac wrth gwrs,
3:23:10ac rydyn ni'n gwneud hynny yn iawn sut rydych chi'n hoffi eich gwaith mae'n hyfryd iawn iawn iawn dwi'n gobeithio y byddwch chi'n mynd i mewn i rai pethau anodd ac yn diogelu'r C.I.A.
3:23:21o awgrymiadau o amgylchedd rydw i'n gobeithio hefyd yn yr adref rydw i'n gobeithio bod pawb yn ceisio gwneud pethau iawn iawn

NARA Description

On July 1, 1972, the recording device engaged at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 11:59 pm, but the conversation appears to be blank. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 026-058 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 26-58

This portion of the tape appears to be blank; however conversation could have taken place.

Also recorded on July 1, 1972

  • 026-040 12:16 PM · 12 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 1:02 pm.
  • 026-041 12:16 PM · 57 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 1:02 pm.
  • 026-042 12:16 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:16 pm and 1:02 pm.
  • 026-043 1:00 PM · 18 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 1:00 pm to 1:02 pm.
  • 026-044 1:02 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Vernon A. Walters talked on the telephone from 1:02 pm to 1:05 pm.
  • 746-018 1:02 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Vernon A. Walters met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:02 pm to 1:05 pm.
  • 746-019 1:05 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and Bruce A. Kehrli met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:05 pm and 1:08 pm.
  • 746-020 1:08 PM · 12 sec — Unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House on an unknown date, sometime between 1:08 pm on July 1, 1972 and 9:06 am on July 19, 1972.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 026-058, July 1, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/026-058 (accessed September 30, 2026).