{"conversationCode":"027-031","tapeNumber":27,"conversationNumber":31,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-027-031","startDateTime":"1972-07-21T16:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-21T17:02:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jul-1972","startTime":"12:07 PM","endDate":"21-Jul-1972","endTime":"1:02 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); White House operator; Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On July 21, 1972, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, White House operator, and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:07 pm and 1:02 pm. 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Ziegler\n\nHaldeman talked with Ziegler.\n\n      Schedule\n          -Ziegler's forthcoming briefing on July 22, 1972\n\n                 -Announcement\n                    -Arrangements\n                         -Time\n                    -Size\n                    -July 21, 1972 economic story\n                    -The President's schedule\n                         -Camp David","filename":["027-031.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","White House operator","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"027-030","nextCode":"027-032","transcript":[{"start":3.56,"end":4.79,"text":"Sigler, please."},{"start":4.81,"end":5.37,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":5.65,"end":6.3,"text":"Sigler, please."},{"start":6.36,"end":7.22,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":36.87,"end":40.05,"text":"Ron, when do you brief tomorrow, Saturday?"},{"start":40.07,"end":41.81,"text":"I don't."},{"start":42.18,"end":42.58,"text":"You don't."},{"start":43.38,"end":45.44,"text":"We had an announcement we wanted to make tomorrow morning."},{"start":46.36,"end":47.54,"text":"How would you do, what would you do?"},{"start":50.85,"end":58.58,"text":"I could either set a briefing for tomorrow morning at the 3 o'clock posting or do a call out."},{"start":60.92,"end":61.34,"text":"Okay."},{"start":62.42,"end":63.4,"text":"What are you thinking about?"},{"start":63.8,"end":65.85,"text":"I don't know, any time, 10, 11."},{"start":69.64,"end":97.74,"text":"well you let me know we work the mechanics out okay the big one the little one or medium sized one be pretty big uh but i don't think we'd you'd want you wouldn't want to say anything this afternoon because that just tips it off we don't want to undo anything on the economic story today"},{"start":99.09,"end":101.69,"text":"You see, I've said he'd probably go to Camp David this afternoon."},{"start":101.75,"end":101.95,"text":"Right."},{"start":102.17,"end":103.09,"text":"He probably will."},{"start":104.47,"end":105.44,"text":"He won't make the announcement."},{"start":105.45,"end":105.83,"text":"You would."},{"start":105.86,"end":109.84,"text":"This wouldn't involve the president."},{"start":109.86,"end":110.8,"text":"Can you say what it's on?"},{"start":110.92,"end":111.04,"text":"No."},{"start":114.56,"end":115.41,"text":"Well, we can work it out."},{"start":115.67,"end":118.65,"text":"Let me talk to you when you get out of there, but just tell him that we can work it out."},{"start":118.69,"end":119.31,"text":"Okay."},{"start":119.33,"end":121.99,"text":"Whatever he plans or whatever you plan to do, we can work it out."},{"start":122.09,"end":122.42,"text":"Okay."},{"start":122.69,"end":123.02,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":123.08,"end":123.58,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinated the logistical arrangements for a significant upcoming administration announcement scheduled for the following morning. The two discussed potential briefing formats, weighing the pros and cons of a morning press conference versus a direct call-out to media. They agreed to finalize the execution strategy later, while emphasizing that the President would remain uninvolved and that any public disclosure should be delayed to avoid distracting from the day's current economic news coverage.","topics":["Press relations","Public announcements","Media strategy","Economic news cycle","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:23:01.469Z"},"topicSlugs":["press-relations","public-announcements","media-strategy","economic-news-cycle","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":128,"audioFiles":[{"file":"027-031.mp3","bytes":3084537,"durationSec":128.47,"bitrate":192083,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.841Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:39.270Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/027-031.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/027-031","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/27/conversation-027-031","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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