{"conversationCode":"027-032","tapeNumber":27,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-027-032","startDateTime":"1972-07-21T17:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-21T17:41:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Jul-1972","startTime":"1:41 PM","endDate":"21-Jul-1972","endTime":"1:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On July 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 1:41 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 027-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 27-32\n\nDate: July 21, 1972\nTime: 1:41 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for a call to George P. Shultz","filename":["027-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"027-031","nextCode":"027-033","transcript":[{"start":5.33,"end":8.04,"text":"Operator, did you try Secretary Schultz?"},{"start":8.66,"end":11.05,"text":"Don't, if he's at lunch or something, don't interrupt him."},{"start":11.2,"end":14.63,"text":"All right, fine, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a call to the White House operator to connect with Secretary of the Treasury George P. Shultz. He explicitly instructed the operator not to interrupt Shultz if he was currently at lunch or otherwise occupied. This brief exchange reflects the President’s management of his schedule and his consideration for the Secretary's availability.","topics":["George P. Shultz","White House operations","Scheduling","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:23:07.322Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-p-shultz","white-house-operations","scheduling","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":17,"audioFiles":[{"file":"027-032.mp3","bytes":418794,"durationSec":17.39,"bitrate":192696,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.842Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/027-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/027-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/27/conversation-027-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}