Conversation 027-062

TapeTape 27StartTuesday, July 25, 1972 at 5:45 PMEndTuesday, July 25, 1972 at 5:54 PMParticipantsHaldeman, H. R. ("Bob");  MacGregor, ClarkRecording deviceWhite House Telephone

On July 25, 1972, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and Clark MacGregor talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:45 pm and 5:54 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 027-062 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 27-62

Date: July 25, 1972
Time: Unknown between 5:45 pm and 5:54 pm
Location: White House Telephone

H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with Clark MacGregor.

[See Conversation No. 753-8F]

     Thomas F. Eagleton
         -Press conference
                -Health
                    -Treatment
                    -George S. McGovern's knowledge
                        -Nomination as Vice President
                    -MacGregor's awareness
                        -Documentation
                    -History of treatment
                        -1960-1966 period
                        -Johns Hopkins Hospital

     The President's instructions for campaign staff
          -MacGregor's forthcoming call to Frederic V. Malek

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Mr. Howardman?
Yeah.
Mr. McGregor on the phone.
Thank you.
Clark?
Yes, Bob.
I just wanted to be sure, President, wanted to be sure that you've seen the Eagleton news, I assume.
No, I have not.
You haven't?
I've been closeted here for an hour and a half.
Oh, Jesus.
Well, Eagleton went out and had a press conference today and announced that he had been hospitalized three times for mental disorders.
Yeah.
That he had had electric shock treatment and psychotherapy.
Yeah.
And...
that he had not told McGovern this, and McGovern had not known it when he nominated him.
Yep.
It's rather a devastating blow.
It sure is.
I don't know whether you knew this, Bob, but I knew that this was the case.
I'd seen the face sheet.
I think I indicated it to you.
Right.
Yep.
Now, this is all between 60 and 66.
Have you seen anything that he's been hospitalized since 66?
No, I haven't.
Okay, because there's some report that he was also in Johns Hopkins after, in the last year or two.
That I do not know.
And he left that out, and if that's true, then he lied.
Now, what I do know is, I think I indicated to you it was 67, and I guess it was 66.
60, 64, and 66.
Yeah, it was the 66 hospital face sheet that I saw.
Okay.
Well, he was in three times.
I don't think we should make any comments, should we?
Well, what the president wants everybody to say is that the president has given instructions that he never, none of us, have any comment on any personal matter.
Right, right.
But it should be, make the point, the President has instructed all of us that he's always had the policy that there's never a comment on a personal matter in a campaign.
Good.
Okay.
I'll call Malik right away and make sure that throughout the whole 1701 establishment we say exactly...
Put the lid on.
Right.
Good.
Will do.
Okay.
I think it had to come out.
Sure did.
Eagleton knew that medical teams were...
probing and that this information was leaking but it is an absolutely devastating thing of course