{"conversationCode":"027-071","tapeNumber":27,"conversationNumber":71,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-027-071","startDateTime":"1972-07-26T13:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-26T13:16:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Jul-1972","startTime":"9:15 AM","endDate":"26-Jul-1972","endTime":"9:16 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bush, George H. W.;","description":"On July 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and George H. W. Bush talked on the telephone from 9:15 am to 9:16 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 027-071 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 27-71\n\nDate: July 26, 1972\nTime: 9:15 am - 9:16 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with George H.W. Bush.\n\n[See Conversation No. 350-34A]\n\n     Bush's schedule\n         -Television\n\n     Vietnam War\n          -Conversation between Bush and Kurt Waldheim\n               -South Vietnam\n                    -Civilian casualties\n                    -Regugees\n               -The President's schedule","filename":["027-071.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bush, George H. W."],"prevCode":"027-070","nextCode":"027-072","transcript":[{"start":6,"end":27.63,"text":"Hi, George."},{"start":27.65,"end":28.73,"text":"Yeah, you've been on a lot of television, haven't you?"},{"start":28.75,"end":28.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.87,"end":31.31,"text":"What I wanted to tell you is, on the basis of this private discussion, I'm not sure if you want to do something like this."},{"start":31.33,"end":32.61,"text":"But when you're talking to Walt, I don't just want to find talk."},{"start":32.63,"end":33.49,"text":"If you could, certainly, along these lines."},{"start":33.51,"end":33.83,"text":"All right, good."},{"start":33.85,"end":34.05,"text":"All right."},{"start":35.22,"end":58.04,"text":"We are waiting to see if we can adopt from the heart of the devil's hands."},{"start":58.06,"end":62.11,"text":"And we want to see how all this long war between the U.S. and the U.S. has never raised its voice with regard to the U.S. Over 100,000 divisions murdered in South Vietnam, killed by bombs, and so forth."},{"start":62.13,"end":62.61,"text":"Over 1,300,000 executed."},{"start":62.99,"end":71.99,"text":"If none of it doesn't do that, that's the second point."},{"start":72.01,"end":74.8,"text":"And if you have a request that you need to come to us, we would certainly say no."},{"start":74.82,"end":74.96,"text":"Got it?"},{"start":74.98,"end":75.08,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Ambassador George H.W. Bush consulted on media strategy and diplomatic messaging regarding the Vietnam War. Nixon instructed Bush to emphasize the humanitarian toll of the conflict, specifically citing high casualty figures in South Vietnam, during his interactions with United Nations Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim. The call served to align the administration's public narrative on the war's impact with the diplomatic initiatives being handled by Bush.","topics":["Vietnam War","George H.W. Bush","Kurt Waldheim","Public relations","Civilian casualties","Diplomatic strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:26:42.371Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","george-h-w-bush","kurt-waldheim","public-relations","civilian-casualties","diplomatic-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":78,"audioFiles":[{"file":"027-071.mp3","bytes":1870784,"durationSec":77.88,"bitrate":192170,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.083Z","transcriptGapSeconds":44,"transcriptGapShare":0.57,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/027-071.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/027-071","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/27/conversation-027-071","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}