{"conversationCode":"028-004","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-004","startDateTime":"1972-07-27T20:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-27T20:39:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jul-1972","startTime":"4:36 PM","endDate":"27-Jul-1972","endTime":"4:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On July 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and unknown person(s) talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:36 pm and 4:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-4\n\nDate: July 27, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:36 pm and 4:39 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\nThe President conferred with an unknown person.\n\n     Request to see items\n\n     [End of conferral]\n\n     Request for a call to Charles W. Colson","filename":["028-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"028-003","nextCode":"028-005","transcript":[{"start":0.49,"end":6.07,"text":"I've got to see those two."},{"start":6.25,"end":7.7,"text":"Close in peace."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief telephone communication to coordinate the scheduling of an unidentified meeting and requests a follow-up call to special counsel Charles W. Colson. The exchange serves as a logistical directive for managing the President's immediate agenda. No substantive policy discussions are captured in this fragment, as the dialogue focuses exclusively on administrative arrangements.","topics":["Scheduling","Charles W. Colson","White House operations","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:29:44.033Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","charles-w-colson","white-house-operations","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":8,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-004.mp3","bytes":124583,"durationSec":7.78,"bitrate":128032,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.232Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}