{"conversationCode":"028-008","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-008","startDateTime":"1972-07-28T15:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-28T15:11:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Jul-1972","startTime":"11:06 AM","endDate":"28-Jul-1972","endTime":"11:11 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On July 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone from 11:06 am to 11:11 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-8\n\nDate: July 28, 1972\nTime: 11:06 am - 11:11 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Tricia Nixon Cox.\n\n[See Conversation No. 756-5]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 18s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n    Tricia Nixon Cox's Secret Service protection\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 14s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n    Adjustment in Secret Service coverage\n        -Robert H. Taylor\n             -Stores\n        -Announced compared to unannounced visits\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 31s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n    Nature of contact with visitors\n\n**************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5\n[Agency Statute]\n[Duration: 2s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5\n\n**************************************************************************\n\n         -Kidnapping\n         -Taylor\n         -Consistency with law\n         -Kidnapping\n         -Security precedents\n              -New York\n                    -Saks Fifth Avenue\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 40s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["028-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"028-007","nextCode":"028-009","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":1.56,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.58,"end":2.26,"text":"Miss Patricia."},{"start":13.36,"end":13.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14.22,"end":14.72,"text":"Hello."},{"start":14.74,"end":17.42,"text":"Daddy, I'll tell you another reason why I'm calling."},{"start":17.5,"end":18.23,"text":"I have a secret service."},{"start":30.42,"end":41.47,"text":"And what I want you to do is have someone tell Mr. Terrence for them not to follow me in stores."},{"start":41.49,"end":43.38,"text":"No one knows we're coming."},{"start":43.4,"end":44.74,"text":"Nothing has ever happened."},{"start":44.76,"end":45.4,"text":"Nothing ever will happen."},{"start":45.42,"end":49.68,"text":"The only time that we need the secret service really is when something's been announced ahead of time."},{"start":49.9,"end":50.1,"text":"All right."},{"start":50.14,"end":55.39,"text":"Whenever you have an announced visit, you want them, but when you have an unannounced visit, you don't."},{"start":55.59,"end":58.05,"text":"Just around the study or something, we just need to be able to..."},{"start":58.44,"end":75.81,"text":"Even if they just want to come within, you know, calling distance."},{"start":76.05,"end":83.36,"text":"You watch every single mouthful you take, every single step you make, and all this."},{"start":83.38,"end":84.6,"text":"Good people come out, but they're friendly."},{"start":84.7,"end":87.8,"text":"And I almost need to know that you're coming to me prepared to do anything like kidnap."},{"start":87.82,"end":88.02,"text":"Here I go."},{"start":88.94,"end":104.45,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":104.47,"end":104.61,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":104.99,"end":114.37,"text":"I can see your concern about it."},{"start":114.39,"end":119.94,"text":"Yeah, I'll talk and see what we can work out on it that is consistent with the law and so forth."},{"start":121.58,"end":124.43,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":125.55,"end":126.63,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":134.88,"end":162.78,"text":"All right, I'll take a look at it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, discuss her desire for greater privacy regarding her Secret Service protection during personal outings. Tricia argues that she does not require agents to follow her inside stores during unannounced visits, citing the lack of past incidents and the intrusive nature of the close surveillance. The President acknowledges her concerns and agrees to consult with staff to determine if current security protocols can be adjusted in a manner consistent with the law.","topics":["Secret Service","Presidential family","Privacy","Security protocols","Executive authority"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:30:05.904Z"},"topicSlugs":["secret-service","presidential-family","privacy","security-protocols","executive-authority"],"audioDurationSec":173,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-008.mp3","bytes":2761070,"durationSec":172.56,"bitrate":128001,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.084Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:39.448Z","transcriptGapSeconds":61,"transcriptGapShare":0.35,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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