{"conversationCode":"028-035","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-035","startDateTime":"1972-08-01T20:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-01T21:20:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Aug-1972","startTime":"4:33 PM","endDate":"1-Aug-1972","endTime":"5:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-35\n\nDate: August 1, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Request for a call to Edward J. Kiernan\n         -Position\n                -International Conference of Police Associations\n         -Location","filename":["028-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"028-034","nextCode":"028-036","transcript":[{"start":0.98,"end":4.69,"text":"You try Mr. Edward Kiernan, K-I-E-R-N-A-N."},{"start":4.77,"end":13.67,"text":"He's the president of the International Conference of Police Associations in New York City."},{"start":13.69,"end":14.73,"text":"All right, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Edward J. Kiernan. Kiernan, serving as the president of the International Conference of Police Associations in New York City, was the intended recipient of the communication. This brief exchange served solely as an administrative coordination to facilitate direct contact between the President and the police labor leader.","topics":["Edward J. Kiernan","International Conference of Police Associations","White House operations","Presidential communication","Law enforcement relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:32:36.702Z"},"topicSlugs":["edward-j-kiernan","international-conference-of-police-associations","white-house-operations","presidential-communication","law-enforcement-relations"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-035.mp3","bytes":244956,"durationSec":15.31,"bitrate":128016,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.084Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:39.451Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}