{"conversationCode":"028-036","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-036","startDateTime":"1972-08-01T20:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-01T21:20:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Aug-1972","startTime":"4:33 PM","endDate":"1-Aug-1972","endTime":"5:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-36\n\nDate: August 1, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:33 pm and 5:20 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n     John McCarroll location\n          -Return call\n          -The President's schedule","filename":["028-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"028-035","nextCode":"028-037","transcript":[{"start":5.87,"end":6.47,"text":"words, sir?"},{"start":8.1,"end":9.9,"text":"Uh, yeah, yeah."},{"start":10.37,"end":12.68,"text":"I can take the call any time up to 5 o'clock."},{"start":12.7,"end":12.98,"text":"Up to 5."},{"start":13,"end":15.4,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":15.43,"end":15.73,"text":"Then I have to."},{"start":15.75,"end":16.75,"text":"But I'm going to be making a picture session."},{"start":16.77,"end":16.97,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":16.99,"end":17.85,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to coordinate a return phone call to John McCarroll. He established a strict deadline for the call, noting that he needed to complete it before 5:00 pm. The President clarified his availability constraints, specifically citing an upcoming photo session that required his attention.","topics":["John McCarroll","Scheduling","White House operations","Presidential schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:32:42.120Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-mccarroll","scheduling","white-house-operations","presidential-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-036.mp3","bytes":285080,"durationSec":17.82,"bitrate":128014,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:27.842Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-036.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-036","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-036","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}