{"conversationCode":"028-037","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-037","startDateTime":"1972-08-01T21:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-01T21:21:00.000Z","startDate":"1-Aug-1972","startTime":"5:20 PM","endDate":"1-Aug-1972","endTime":"5:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kiernan, Edward J.;","description":"On August 1, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Edward J. Kiernan talked on the telephone from 5:20 pm to 5:21 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-037 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-37\n\nDate: August 1, 1972\nTime: 5:20 pm - 5:21 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Edward J. Kiernan.\n\n[See Conversation No. 758-20]\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n                                       (rev. Mar-02)\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 25s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["028-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Kiernan, Edward J."],"prevCode":"028-036","nextCode":"028-038","transcript":[{"start":1.36,"end":2.43,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":2.53,"end":2.81,"text":"Mr."},{"start":3.09,"end":4.62,"text":"Person has Edward J. Kiernan."},{"start":4.72,"end":5.35,"text":"Yes."},{"start":6.61,"end":7.88,"text":"Question's on the line, sir."},{"start":8.26,"end":8.4,"text":"Hello?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard M. Nixon held a brief telephone conversation with Edward J. Kiernan, the president of the International Conference of Police Associations. The discussion served as a follow-up to a previous engagement between the two men. Due to the withdrawal of the primary content for privacy reasons, no specific policy decisions or action items are available for review.","topics":["International Conference of Police Associations","Law enforcement","Police relations","Presidential communication"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:32:47.729Z"},"topicSlugs":["international-conference-of-police-associations","law-enforcement","police-relations","presidential-communication"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-037.mp3","bytes":424277,"durationSec":17.58,"bitrate":193068,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.084Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}