{"conversationCode":"028-045","tapeNumber":28,"conversationNumber":45,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-028-045","startDateTime":"1972-08-02T18:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-02T18:36:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Aug-1972","startTime":"2:33 PM","endDate":"2-Aug-1972","endTime":"2:36 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On August 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 2:33 pm to 2:36 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 028-045 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 28-45\n\nDate: August 2, 1972\nTime: 2:33pm - 2:36 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 352-22]\n\n     Watergate\n         -Statements for press\n               -Gerald L. Warren's briefing\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 46s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["028-045.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"028-044","nextCode":"028-046","transcript":[{"start":3.39,"end":6.65,"text":"I guess that's what you do."},{"start":60.59,"end":71.78,"text":"Oh, it is, really."},{"start":71.8,"end":72.5,"text":"We're directing everybody to do it."},{"start":72.52,"end":72.9,"text":"Well, they know it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler discuss the management of media communications regarding the Watergate scandal. The conversation focuses on coordinating official statements and briefings, specifically those delivered by Deputy Press Secretary Gerald L. Warren. This exchange serves to reinforce the White House strategy of directing all relevant spokespersons to adhere to a unified messaging approach.","topics":["Watergate","Press relations","Public messaging","Gerald L. Warren","Crisis management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:33:32.393Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","press-relations","public-messaging","gerald-l-warren","crisis-management"],"audioDurationSec":97,"audioFiles":[{"file":"028-045.mp3","bytes":2325156,"durationSec":96.78,"bitrate":192194,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.232Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:39.453Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/028-045.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/028-045","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/28/conversation-028-045","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}