{"conversationCode":"029-005","tapeNumber":29,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-029-005","startDateTime":"1972-08-03T19:19:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-03T19:22:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Aug-1972","startTime":"3:19 PM","endDate":"3-Aug-1972","endTime":"3:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Andreas, Dwayne O.;","description":"On August 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Dwayne O. Andreas talked on the telephone from 3:19 pm to 3:22 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 029-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 29-5\n\nDate: August 3, 1972\nTime: 3:19 pm - 3:22 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nDwayne O. Andreas talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 353-18E]\n\n     Andreas's report\n\n     Hubert H. Humphrey\n         -The President’s previous meeting with Henry A. Kissinger\n               -Arrangements for briefing of Humphrey\n                    -Timing\n                         -Announcement of Democratic vice presidential candidate\n         -The President’s previous conversation with Humphrey\n               -California\n               -Timing\n                    -Democratic National Convention\n\n     Removal of Thomas F. Eagleton [?]\n        -Handling\n                                               5\n\n                        NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF\n","filename":["029-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Andreas, Dwayne O."],"prevCode":"029-004","nextCode":"029-006","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":27.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.87,"end":28.09,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":28.11,"end":28.21,"text":"Good."},{"start":28.23,"end":28.33,"text":"Good."},{"start":28.35,"end":28.45,"text":"Good."},{"start":28.47,"end":28.57,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.59,"end":29.19,"text":"Yeah, now that's fine with us."},{"start":30,"end":51.41,"text":"I'd like to see them try to go south."},{"start":51.42,"end":51.51,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":51.52,"end":54.49,"text":"I'd rather, I'd rather have them, let an hour go."},{"start":54.51,"end":55.27,"text":"Yeah, yeah, I, yeah, yeah."},{"start":55.29,"end":55.97,"text":"Thanks for crying out loud."},{"start":55.99,"end":57.21,"text":"I'd rather have them go south than to go to Minnesota."},{"start":57.23,"end":58.07,"text":"I talked to Henry into that, it's all set."},{"start":58.09,"end":58.79,"text":"Henry is going to deliberately wait"},{"start":67.08,"end":81.15,"text":"This is a very good idea."},{"start":113.5,"end":131.01,"text":"Here we go."},{"start":131.03,"end":131.29,"text":"That's right."},{"start":131.31,"end":131.47,"text":"Will it?"},{"start":131.49,"end":131.75,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":131.77,"end":132.41,"text":"I think it's been quite a while."},{"start":132.44,"end":132.88,"text":"Quite a while, I know."},{"start":132.9,"end":133.76,"text":"And another thing, too, that sort of thing."},{"start":133.78,"end":136.18,"text":"I think people know that that kind of a thing is wrong, and they just say, why would they do something stupid like that?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and businessman Dwayne O. Andreas discuss the political fallout surrounding the Democratic vice-presidential nomination and the potential replacement of Thomas F. Eagleton. Nixon confirms that he has coordinated with Henry Kissinger to delay a security briefing for Hubert Humphrey to influence the timing of the Democratic ticket's reorganization. The conversation reflects the administration’s strategic interest in managing the perceived stability and optics of the opposing party's convention period.","topics":["Thomas F. Eagleton","Hubert H. Humphrey","Democratic National Convention","Henry A. Kissinger","1972 Presidential Election"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:35:09.899Z"},"topicSlugs":["thomas-f-eagleton","hubert-h-humphrey","democratic-national-convention","henry-kissinger","1972-election"],"audioDurationSec":154,"audioFiles":[{"file":"029-005.mp3","bytes":3705834,"durationSec":154.33,"bitrate":192095,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.084Z","transcriptGapSeconds":66,"transcriptGapShare":0.43,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/029-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/029-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/029/conversation-029-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}