{"conversationCode":"029-010","tapeNumber":29,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-029-010","startDateTime":"1972-08-03T20:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-03T20:59:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Aug-1972","startTime":"4:57 PM","endDate":"3-Aug-1972","endTime":"4:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Stennis, John C.;","description":"On August 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John C. Stennis talked on the telephone from 4:57 pm to 4:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 029-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 29-10\n\nDate: August 3, 1972\nTime: 4:57 pm - 4:59 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with John C. Stennis.\n\n     Birthday greetings\n\n     Appropriations\n         -Stennis's role\n               -The President's thanks\n         -Republican Senators\n               -Vice President Spiro T. Agnew's call to the President\n               -The President's opinion\n         -House of Representatives\n\n     Vietnam\n          -Stennis\n\n     Stennis's plans","filename":["029-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Stennis, John C."],"prevCode":"029-009","nextCode":"029-011","transcript":[{"start":0.45,"end":22.01,"text":"Hello."},{"start":22.03,"end":22.75,"text":"John, I'm calling you on two things."},{"start":22.77,"end":26.08,"text":"One, to wish you a happy birthday, and two, to thank you for another really great job on, you know, fighting out of the stupid and the pleasant sort of a tough vote."},{"start":26.1,"end":27.76,"text":"And now you've got the confidence to just hope that some of them can be ironed out."},{"start":33.87,"end":47.89,"text":"I must say we put an awful load on you."},{"start":47.91,"end":51.15,"text":"Particularly when we can't even provide you our own republic."},{"start":51.17,"end":51.97,"text":"The vice president called me last night."},{"start":51.99,"end":52.45,"text":"He was really outraged."},{"start":52.47,"end":54.56,"text":"I said, well, I said, well, I understand, you know, I can understand our"},{"start":71.6,"end":88.49,"text":"Well, we don't, we don't want them all in on this one."},{"start":88.51,"end":89.9,"text":"We hope the house is strong enough so that we can really work it out."},{"start":89.92,"end":90.78,"text":"So, we're, we're, we're on the right track."},{"start":90.8,"end":91.26,"text":"Well, good and have it."},{"start":94.58,"end":110.27,"text":"I can assure you that on my time in the war, without saying a thing, you all know you're on the right side."},{"start":110.29,"end":111.39,"text":"History will record it, but we didn't have to say much."},{"start":111.41,"end":111.75,"text":"And you know why."},{"start":111.77,"end":112.79,"text":"Incidentally, they do give us a picture of us, too."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Senator John C. Stennis to extend birthday greetings and express gratitude for his efforts in navigating difficult appropriation votes in Congress. The two discussed the lack of support from Republican senators and the frustration voiced by Vice President Spiro Agnew regarding the legislative situation. Nixon emphasized the importance of securing a strong position in the House of Representatives to resolve ongoing legislative conflicts, while Stennis reaffirmed his support for the administration's Vietnam policy.","topics":["Appropriations","Spiro Agnew","Vietnam War","Legislative Strategy","Republican Party"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:35:36.230Z"},"topicSlugs":["appropriations","spiro-agnew","vietnam-war","legislative-strategy","republican-party"],"audioDurationSec":124,"audioFiles":[{"file":"029-010.mp3","bytes":2974196,"durationSec":123.85,"bitrate":192110,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.084Z","transcriptGapSeconds":38,"transcriptGapShare":0.31,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/029-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/029-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/29/conversation-029-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}