Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 029-017
Date: Friday, August 4, 1972 at 1:09 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cook, Richard K.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/029-017

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[0:00] Let me ask you one other thing, right?
[0:11] I just came to my attention while we were here.
[0:15] You know, on that Hyde thing,
[0:17] Has that passed the House?
[0:19] It passed the House, yes.
[0:19] But what about the Senate?
[0:20] Has it gone there yet?
[0:21] It went in the Senate, too.
[0:24] Did it pass?
[0:25] It passed.
[0:25] Oh, it passed the Senate, then, had it?
[0:27] They were in conference this morning, and we haven't gotten a report back, but...
[0:30] I was hoping we could rescind it before the Senate acted, but I guess we can't, huh?
[0:34] No, but politically, it might not be as bad as it appears at first blush.
[0:39] We fought it, and we lost, but...
[0:41] Here's a case where your action attempted to deal with the question of increased prices of shoes, and the Congress is frustrating that attempt.
[0:53] So politically, it could be worse.
[0:55] That's true.
[0:56] The only thing is if we have to do the cattlemen in on another area.
[0:59] We might balance this off.
[1:01] Well, anyway.
[1:01] We're working on that in the war in the house right now, and that will be up Wednesday.
[1:06] The key, as you know, is the speaker and Hale, and that breakfast you had with him last Friday was very helpful.
[1:12] The best we can hope for is with the speakers to maintain, for him to maintain neutrality.
[1:19] I think I spent over an hour with him yesterday.
[1:22] He's extremely nervous.
[1:24] If John McCormick were around, he'd be strong as a rock.
[1:27] Oh, hell yes, yes.
[1:28] But I think... You don't think John McCormick would call him on this, do you?
[1:33] I had John McCormick... Would it help?
[1:37] I keep in touch with John McCormick frequently, and he's been very helpful on issuing...
[1:42] If you like, you might just say to Henry...
[1:47] or somebody, or you could call, you could tell McCormick.
[1:51] Henry hasn't seen McCormick for some time.
[1:53] He might see him and say, sir, we really need help on this, and could you do something?
[1:56] Why don't you try that?
[1:57] Okay, I will, Mr. Perry.
[1:59] Henry can use my name in it, too, that we need him.
[2:02] But he ought to pay attention to the old man anyway.
[2:04] That's right, sir.
[2:05] Have Henry, tell Henry that he'd like for him to talk to McCormick.
[2:08] Very good.
[2:09] Okay.
[2:10] Bye.
[2:10] Thank you, Mr. Perry.
[2:11] All right, thank you.
[2:12] Bye.