Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 030-005
Date: Tuesday, September 19, 1972 at 1:53 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-005

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[0:00] Yeah.
[0:02] One thing that did not come through in that meeting this morning that I wanted you to give me your evaluation of is what is the prospect, John, on the sustaining of that veto?
[0:18] On OEL?
[0:18] Yeah.
[0:21] They think it could be sustained in the House.
[0:24] Well, that's in one place, right?
[0:26] That's good.
[0:27] It could be if you had to do it.
[0:29] Yeah.
[0:30] Now, that's not a firm count, but it's the best estimate they could give.
[0:35] Now, obviously, Jerry had no stomach at all for it.
[0:38] Nope.
[0:39] That's right.
[0:40] And neither did Hugh.
[0:42] Right.
[0:43] Hugh had none at all for it.
[0:44] Right.
[0:44] And Jerry had none.
[0:45] I didn't know what the hell Les was.
[0:47] Well, I suspect Les would be the guy that would have to carry the hod for us.
[0:53] Jerry has got some kind of romance going with the CAP program in Grand Rapids.
[1:00] Oh, I know.
[1:00] He's got one that works there.
[1:02] Yeah.
[1:08] You say today is the last day?
[1:10] Yes, sir, on this one.
[1:11] Right.
[1:15] Yeah, well, I'll think about it a little bit more.
[1:18] Why don't you take a further check with Timmons on that?
[1:21] All right.
[1:22] All right.
[1:22] See what his honest feeling is.
[1:24] All right.
[1:25] Bye.
[1:25] Give it a whirl.