{"conversationCode":"030-013","tapeNumber":30,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-030-013","startDateTime":"1972-09-21T18:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-21T19:15:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Sep-1972","startTime":"2:16 PM","endDate":"21-Sep-1972","endTime":"3:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:16 pm and 3:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 030-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 30-13\n\nDate: September 21, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 2:16 pm and 3:15 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 357-7A]\n\n       Request for a call to Stephen B. Bull","filename":["030-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"030-012","nextCode":"030-014","transcript":[{"start":5.75,"end":6.84,"text":"Stay below, please."},{"start":8.13,"end":8.33,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8.35,"end":8.89,"text":"Operator?"},{"start":8.91,"end":9.17,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":9.19,"end":10.88,"text":"No, you can let that go."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call, but ultimately canceled the request. After briefly interacting with the switchboard staff, the President decided not to proceed with his intended communication to Stephen B. Bull. No substantive policy matters or further actions resulted from this brief administrative exchange.","topics":["White House administration","Stephen B. Bull","telecommunications","presidential staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:42:29.191Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-administration","stephen-b-bull","telecommunications","presidential-staff"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"030-013.mp3","bytes":361115,"durationSec":14.99,"bitrate":192766,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.232Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/030-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/30/conversation-030-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}