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Conversation 030-021

TapeTape 30StartThursday, September 21, 1972 at 8:04 PMEndThursday, September 21, 1972 at 8:15 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On September 21, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 8:04 pm to 8:15 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 030-021 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 30-21

Date: September 21, 1972
Time: 8:04 pm - 8:15 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

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       Crosby S. Noyes
             -Washington Star
                    -Watergate
                          -Daniel Ellsberg

       George S. McGovern
             -Ellsberg
             -Watergate
                    -Polls
                    -Democratic chicanery

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Yes, sir, Mr. President.
I enjoyed reading Crosby Noyes had a marvelous column tonight in the story in which he says the reason the Watergate column hasn't aroused any feeling is why should it?
The public didn't get very excited over Ellsberg, and what's the difference between that?
a little bit of political espionage on the one hand, and Ellsberg stealing government documents.
This is one that we've been waiting to use this one, frankly, until we could get Josh the right spokesman on this.
McGovern started really chirping away on the... Yeah, he ought to say something about Ellsberg.
Just say, well, how come you encouraged Ellsberg to publish stolen documents?
What's the difference?
That's right.
That's good.
Actually, it's kind of interesting the way
McGovern has shut up on the Watergate, hasn't he?
He hasn't talked about that this week.
I wonder why.
Yeah, I wonder why, too.
Maybe he's found that his polls may indicate it isn't making all that much impact on the folks.
I'm sure that's one reason.
Maybe he figured his people were up to a little bit of chicanery that goes in the back there.
Right.
No, I think basically it is that he found that it hasn't...
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