Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 030-021 Date: Thursday, September 21, 1972 at 8:04 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-021 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Hello. [0:02] Yes, sir, Mr. President. [0:13] I enjoyed reading Crosby Noyes had a marvelous column tonight in the story in which he says the reason the Watergate column hasn't aroused any feeling is why should it? [0:22] The public didn't get very excited over Ellsberg, and what's the difference between that? [0:28] a little bit of political espionage on the one hand, and Ellsberg stealing government documents. [0:34] This is one that we've been waiting to use this one, frankly, until we could get Josh the right spokesman on this. [0:42] McGovern started really chirping away on the... Yeah, he ought to say something about Ellsberg. [0:47] Just say, well, how come you encouraged Ellsberg to publish stolen documents? [0:50] What's the difference? [0:52] That's right. [0:53] That's good. [0:54] Actually, it's kind of interesting the way [0:58] McGovern has shut up on the Watergate, hasn't he? [1:01] He hasn't talked about that this week. [1:03] I wonder why. [1:05] Yeah, I wonder why, too. [1:07] Maybe he's found that his polls may indicate it isn't making all that much impact on the folks. [1:15] I'm sure that's one reason. [1:16] Maybe he figured his people were up to a little bit of chicanery that goes in the back there. [1:23] Right. [1:24] No, I think basically it is that he found that it hasn't...