{"conversationCode":"030-029","tapeNumber":30,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-030-029","startDateTime":"1972-09-29T01:34:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-29T01:40:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Sep-1972","startTime":"9:34 PM","endDate":"28-Sep-1972","endTime":"9:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On September 28, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:34 pm and 9:40 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 030-029 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 30-29\n\nDate: September 28, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:34 pm and 9:40 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n       Edward W. Carter's schedule\n             -Madison Hotel, Washington, DC\n             -Carter's wife\n\n       Request for a call to David Packard","filename":["030-029.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"030-028","nextCode":"030-030","transcript":[{"start":3.78,"end":7.42,"text":"D.C., and he will be staying at the Madison Hotel this evening."},{"start":7.68,"end":11.11,"text":"His wife said his plane is going to be late."},{"start":11.15,"end":14.5,"text":"He was due to arrive at 10.30, but it will probably be in a half hour, an hour late."},{"start":14.52,"end":15.1,"text":"May I leave word?"},{"start":16.34,"end":17.46,"text":"I will call him in the morning."},{"start":17.72,"end":18.14,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":18.4,"end":18.54,"text":"Fine."},{"start":18.56,"end":21.37,"text":"And would you try Mr. David Packard in San Francisco, please?"},{"start":21.43,"end":21.77,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":21.81,"end":22.19,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to manage his evening communications schedule. After receiving an update regarding the delayed travel plans of Edward W. Carter, the President decided to postpone his outreach to Carter until the following morning. Concurrently, Nixon directed the operator to place a new call to David Packard in San Francisco.","topics":["Edward W. Carter","David Packard","Scheduling","Communications","White House Operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:43:57.282Z"},"topicSlugs":["edward-w-carter","david-packard","scheduling","communications","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"030-029.mp3","bytes":681481,"durationSec":28.32,"bitrate":192508,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.232Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/030-029.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-029","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/30/conversation-030-029","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}