Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 30 › Conversation 030-038

Nixon phone call with Bohlen on Andrei A. Gromyko

Saturday, September 30, 1972 · 12:05 PM–12:11 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Bohlen, Charles E. ("Chip")Conversation030-038 on Tape 30StartSaturday, September 30, 1972 at 12:05 PMEndSaturday, September 30, 1972 at 12:11 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 030-038 ↗

President Nixon called veteran diplomat Charles E. "Chip" Bohlen to express his well wishes following reports of Bohlen's hospitalization. During the exchange, Nixon also mentioned a planned private dinner at Camp David for Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei A. Gromyko and fondly recalled their past collaborative work under the Christian A. Herter Committee. The conversation served primarily as a personal gesture of support and appreciation for Bohlen’s long-standing service to the country.

  • Charles E. Bohlen
  • Andrei A. Gromyko
  • Christian A. Herter Committee
  • Diplomacy
  • Presidential health well-wishes

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Hello.
Hello, Mr. President.
I just wanted to say that I had learned that you were in the hospital.
I was having a little dinner for, just private dinner for Gromyko at Camp David on Monday, and I was wondering if you could come.
They said you were
sort of out of combat for the moment, but I want to wish you the best, and when you do get back, I hope we can have a visit.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I certainly do appreciate it.
You've done so much for the country, and I think back to that time that we were, as I've often said before, when we were on the Queen Mary, a new briefing,
the Herder Committee.
We were all dummies in foreign policy.
Chris brought you along, and it was a great job.
Thank you, Mr. President.
I appreciate more than I can tell you.
You take care, and we know you're going to, after they get through cutting out whatever they are, that you'll come back better never.
Thank you, Mr. President.
All right.
Bye.

On September 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles E. ("Chip") Bohlen talked on the telephone from 12:05 pm to 12:11 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 030-038 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 30-38

Date: September 30, 1972
Time: 12:05 pm - 12:11 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles E. (“Chip”) Bohlen.

[See Conversation No. 789-7B]

       Bohlen
                -Health
                -Schedule
                       -Andrei A. Gromyko
                               -Camp David
                -Services to country
                -The President’s recollection
                       -S.S. Queen Mary
                               -Christian A. Herter Committee
                               -Herter
                -Health
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Conversation 030-038, September 30, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/030-038 (accessed October 10, 2026).