{"conversationCode":"031-037","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":37,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-037","startDateTime":"1972-10-13T13:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-13T13:47:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:44 AM","endDate":"13-Oct-1972","endTime":"9:47 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Price, Raymond K., Jr.;","description":"On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. talked on the telephone from 9:44 am to 9:47 am. 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Price, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 797-3]\n\n        Domestic issues\n           -Crime and drugs\n               -Price's memorandum\n               -Marijuana issue\n           -Education\n               -Price's speech draft\n           -Speech drafts\n               -Paternalism, veterans, agriculture\n               -Health\n\n        Foreign affairs\n            -Status of draft\n                 -Timing of speech\n                      -Vietnam","filename":["031-037.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Price, Raymond K., Jr."],"prevCode":"031-036","nextCode":"031-038","transcript":[{"start":0.44,"end":1.16,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.34,"end":2.08,"text":"Ray Price."},{"start":2.64,"end":2.88,"text":"Hello."},{"start":3.2,"end":11.91,"text":"Sir, I saw your memorandum on the crime and drug thing, and I have no problem in taking it out."},{"start":12.47,"end":24.77,"text":"As a matter of fact, in the event that you think it raises a problem, perhaps we just ought to leave out the dangerous drugs things, because, I mean..."},{"start":24.75,"end":30.48,"text":"Any smart person, I think, could just maybe ask the... Of course, my position on the marijuana has already been made."},{"start":31.06,"end":31.48,"text":"Yes, you did."},{"start":31.5,"end":32.92,"text":"But would you prefer to leave that out, too?"},{"start":33.28,"end":34.97,"text":"I mean, I could just put in the two things."},{"start":35.31,"end":37.03,"text":"I think that might be better."},{"start":37.07,"end":38.83,"text":"Just leave it out so we don't raise the question."},{"start":38.89,"end":41.37,"text":"I think the position is just the matter."},{"start":41.81,"end":44.14,"text":"Now, the rest is... Yeah."},{"start":44.16,"end":44.92,"text":"So, all right, fine."},{"start":45,"end":47.1,"text":"I'll work it over now for..."},{"start":48.18,"end":53.45,"text":"In terms of just getting the rough edges moved off and so forth and so on."},{"start":53.47,"end":53.85,"text":"And..."},{"start":54.25,"end":55.71,"text":"How are you coming on education?"},{"start":55.99,"end":57.63,"text":"That's the next one."},{"start":57.66,"end":59.88,"text":"I mean, how are you working on now?"},{"start":60.02,"end":67.13,"text":"We're just about to crank up on that, and that's one we hadn't gotten started on because there's been some question about whether we really should do one."},{"start":67.49,"end":68.41,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":68.43,"end":68.87,"text":"I see."},{"start":68.91,"end":72.44,"text":"There were some people who felt that it would be a good idea."},{"start":72.48,"end":74.86,"text":"What about others?"},{"start":75.42,"end":80.43,"text":"We're well along, of course, on the paternalism list."},{"start":80.41,"end":83.89,"text":"I'd be ready to throw, but... And we're working on the veterans ones."},{"start":83.91,"end":85.54,"text":"The veterans, of course, right, right."},{"start":85.56,"end":86.44,"text":"That's an easy one."},{"start":86.48,"end":89.62,"text":"That's just, that's basically on a farm when we've got to have something for the farmer."},{"start":90.11,"end":92.81,"text":"We've got an agriculture draft, which is a pretty good starting point."},{"start":92.91,"end":94.09,"text":"We're going to work over on that."},{"start":94.99,"end":102.77,"text":"And then I think one, a very high level one, you know, for the, toward the end is needed."},{"start":103.47,"end":105.83,"text":"Let's see what other subsets we want besides education."},{"start":105.89,"end":110.92,"text":"Well, one that we haven't started on, but we've been gathering a little stuff on, is a health one, which I think could be good."},{"start":111.34,"end":111.68,"text":"Health."},{"start":112.1,"end":135,"text":"as as possibilities it does yeah uh we've got the foreign uh the unfinished agenda in foreign affairs which uh yeah we had a draft on which we wanted to do a little more work on well i'll tell you with the with foreign affairs you really have got to i'd sort of put that on the back burner i know i would get it i'd have the draft but i put in the back burner because everything really hinges on"},{"start":134.98,"end":140.95,"text":"I mean, as long as Vietnam is being negotiated, you know, you don't know, nothing may happen."},{"start":141.01,"end":144.03,"text":"That's the only subject people give a damn about."},{"start":144.15,"end":152.05,"text":"And so that would come very late, that one, unless, okay."},{"start":153.03,"end":154.23,"text":"All right, fine, Ray, thanks."},{"start":154.25,"end":155.03,"text":"Sure, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and speechwriter Raymond K. Price, Jr. discuss the drafting and refinement of various upcoming presidential speeches. The pair decides to remove references to marijuana and dangerous drugs from a crime policy draft to avoid unnecessary controversy. They also review the status of drafts concerning paternalism, veterans, agriculture, health, and education, while agreeing to defer a foreign affairs speech until the outcome of Vietnam peace negotiations becomes clearer.","topics":["Speechwriting","Drug Policy","Domestic Policy","Vietnam War","Political Strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:49:26.031Z"},"topicSlugs":["speechwriting","drug-policy","domestic-policy","vietnam-war","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":160,"audioFiles":[{"file":"031-037.mp3","bytes":3853164,"durationSec":160.48,"bitrate":192081,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.234Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/031-037.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-037","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/31/conversation-031-037","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}