{"conversationCode":"031-043","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":43,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-043","startDateTime":"1972-10-13T23:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-13T23:28:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Oct-1972","startTime":"7:24 PM","endDate":"13-Oct-1972","endTime":"7:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On October 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 7:24 pm to 7:28 pm. 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Colson.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 3m 10s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n        Campaign practices\n           -Attacks on the President’s campaign headquarters\n               -Destruction, telephone threats\n           -Anti-war demonstrators\n           -Use of violence by the President’s opponents\n           -Accusations on pranks\n           -Press reporting\n               -Robert J. Dole, Clark MacGregor\n                    -White House response\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 14s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["031-043.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"031-042","nextCode":"031-044","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":19.39,"text":"We're continuing to get out to the stories of what they've done to us."},{"start":19.84,"end":21.02,"text":"I've just gone through it."},{"start":21.04,"end":22.48,"text":"I just finished going through it."},{"start":22.5,"end":26.12,"text":"We've got some good white papers on what they've done to our headquarters."},{"start":26.24,"end":27.84,"text":"I didn't realize they'd done so much."},{"start":27.86,"end":29.79,"text":"Now that you see it all written out, it's"},{"start":30.36,"end":36.68,"text":"Really they've raised a lot of hell with this Molotov cocktail at the door of one of our headquarters in California."},{"start":37.33,"end":45.6,"text":"And a number of threats, a number of phone threats have got in."},{"start":45.78,"end":49.52,"text":"A couple of headquarters burned."},{"start":50.88,"end":53.85,"text":"And of course we know the organizing of the anti-war demonstrators."},{"start":53.89,"end":55.13,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":55.36,"end":59.53,"text":"people marching through our state headquarters in Boston."},{"start":59.55,"end":60.33,"text":"Did they do that?"},{"start":60.35,"end":61.35,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":61.37,"end":64.86,"text":"We've got that there in Arlington, Massachusetts."},{"start":64.88,"end":66.78,"text":"They broke our storefront operation apart."},{"start":68.08,"end":70.33,"text":"So we've got all of these, and we'll put it out."},{"start":70.35,"end":71.63,"text":"They're engaging in violence."},{"start":71.89,"end":72.83,"text":"Oh, yeah."},{"start":72.89,"end":83.56,"text":"That's the point that I want to get Bill and McGregor Monday to make as an answer to this fellow, that, goddammit, they can accuse us of pranks, and they're not true, but..."},{"start":84.39,"end":87.11,"text":"That's one thing, but my God, these are violent activities."},{"start":87.45,"end":94.44,"text":"And the thing is, for Dole and McGregor to attack the press on this, I think they have to attack the press for its double standard."},{"start":94.84,"end":96.64,"text":"I think it's the only way to say it."},{"start":96.66,"end":107.5,"text":"And by making it an all-out assault on the press for their double standard and the rest that say, now, come on, you're going to report this campaign, let's report what's happening."},{"start":107.66,"end":109.94,"text":"I think it can be done in a way, Mr. President, that is not..."},{"start":110.19,"end":113.25,"text":"anti-meteor, I think it can be done in a way that is..."},{"start":113.3,"end":114.54,"text":"Some segments of the press."},{"start":114.56,"end":123.63,"text":"Yeah, well, I think we can say that the press seems to have become obsessed with what would normally be regarded as gossip column humor."},{"start":123.65,"end":129.09,"text":"And my God, there are serious things going on in this campaign that aren't being reported."},{"start":129.28,"end":131.38,"text":"And just go through this whole litany."},{"start":131.42,"end":134.2,"text":"I think we can make some points on it."},{"start":134.24,"end":137.35,"text":"Maybe that's just what will be needed to..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles W. Colson discussed a strategy to counter media narratives by highlighting the violence directed against the Nixon campaign. They reviewed a list of documented attacks on campaign headquarters and acts of intimidation by anti-war protesters to contrast these events with allegations of campaign pranks. 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