{"conversationCode":"031-051","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":51,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-051","startDateTime":"1972-10-16T13:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-16T14:47:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:33 AM","endDate":"16-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:47 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Abrams, Creighton W., Jr. (Gen.);","description":"On October 16, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:33 am and 10:47 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-051 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 31-51\n\nDate: October 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:33 am and 10:12 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr.\n\n[See conversation No. 799-9C]\n\n        Abrams’s schedule\n            -Meeting with the President and Kissinger\n            -Kissinger's schedule\n            -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n            -Forthcoming meeting with Kissinger in Saigon\n            -Forthcoming meeting with the President","filename":["031-051.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Abrams, Creighton W., Jr. (Gen.)"],"prevCode":"031-050","nextCode":"031-052","transcript":[{"start":5.54,"end":6.5,"text":"There you are."},{"start":6.52,"end":6.64,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":6.66,"end":7.84,"text":"Yes, Abrams."},{"start":7.86,"end":8.92,"text":"This is Henry Kissinger."},{"start":8.94,"end":13.85,"text":"I'm here with the president and he was wondering whether you'd be able to drop over for a few minutes."},{"start":15.55,"end":19.9,"text":"Well, I have this ceremony at 10.30."},{"start":20.74,"end":22.68,"text":"Oh, well then it's probably not feasible."},{"start":23.03,"end":24.82,"text":"Well, he'll catch you this afternoon."},{"start":24.89,"end":27.66,"text":"I'm going off, but Haig will set it up then."},{"start":27.98,"end":28.88,"text":"Very well, sir."},{"start":28.9,"end":32.91,"text":"He just wanted to ask you the same question I asked you yesterday afternoon."},{"start":33.27,"end":34.43,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":34.45,"end":35.87,"text":"And hear it from you himself."},{"start":36.44,"end":37.48,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":37.5,"end":37.74,"text":"Good."},{"start":38.26,"end":42.49,"text":"Well, I look forward to seeing you in Saigon, and the President will see you this afternoon."},{"start":42.65,"end":43.17,"text":"Very good, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger and General Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. coordinated a scheduling conflict regarding a proposed meeting with President Nixon. While the President requested an immediate discussion to confirm specific information previously raised by Kissinger, Abrams was unavailable due to a prior ceremony. Consequently, Alexander Haig was tasked with arranging a follow-up meeting for that afternoon to ensure the President could consult directly with the General.","topics":["Vietnam War","Scheduling","White House operations","Military diplomacy","Alexander Haig"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:50:43.484Z"},"topicSlugs":["vietnam-war","scheduling","white-house-operations","military-diplomacy","alexander-haig"],"audioDurationSec":49,"audioFiles":[{"file":"031-051.mp3","bytes":1183659,"durationSec":49.25,"bitrate":192256,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.232Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.102Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/031-051.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-051","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/031/conversation-031-051","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}