{"conversationCode":"031-052","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":52,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-052","startDateTime":"1972-10-16T14:47:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-16T14:48:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Oct-1972","startTime":"10:47 AM","endDate":"16-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:48 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Goldwater, Barry M.;","description":"On October 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Barry M. Goldwater talked on the telephone from 10:47 am to 10:48 am. 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Wallace\n                -Wallace\n                     -The President’s message\n                     -Injuries\n                     -Medical aid\n\n        1972 campaign\n            -Republican campaign practices\n                -Press allegations\n                -Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign\n                -Reversal of allegations\n                    -Democratic campaign practices","filename":["031-052.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Goldwater, Barry M."],"prevCode":"031-051","nextCode":"031-053","transcript":[{"start":3.17,"end":3.67,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":4.81,"end":5.07,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.41,"end":6.01,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":6.03,"end":6.29,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.31,"end":7.82,"text":"Mr. Goldwater."},{"start":7.83,"end":8.05,"text":"Hello."},{"start":9.04,"end":9.4,"text":"Hello."},{"start":9.72,"end":9.84,"text":"Hello."},{"start":9.86,"end":10.96,"text":"Are you in Alabama?"},{"start":11.4,"end":12.46,"text":"Yes, sir, I am."},{"start":12.48,"end":18.07,"text":"Well, give him all my best down there, and I hope that you call the governor when you're there."},{"start":18.35,"end":20.53,"text":"I'm having breakfast with him tomorrow, Mr. President."},{"start":20.57,"end":20.87,"text":"Great."},{"start":21.11,"end":31.54,"text":"Well, would you give him my warmest regards and tell him, as I've often said, that I feel that I consider him as the same person"},{"start":31.52,"end":37.23,"text":"as I consider anybody who's been wounded in battle, and that we're going to get exactly the same treatment."},{"start":37.25,"end":43.66,"text":"You see, you know, we've got VA facilities, and that if he ever has anything he wants, he has only the phone to pick up and call me."},{"start":44.06,"end":44.9,"text":"Oh, fair play to him."},{"start":44.92,"end":45.06,"text":"Right."},{"start":45.28,"end":49.37,"text":"In the meantime, I want to tell you, we appreciate the way you're slamming these people a bit, you know."},{"start":49.75,"end":53,"text":"What do you think of all this hocus-pocus about the dirty tricks and the rest?"},{"start":53.06,"end":54.54,"text":"God, you know, you hit it well."},{"start":54.52,"end":56.56,"text":"Look what they did to you in the campaign."},{"start":57.42,"end":64.37,"text":"Well, the thing about it, Mr. President, it is no issue any place in this country except in Washington."},{"start":64.39,"end":65.51,"text":"It's a very weak one there."},{"start":65.83,"end":73.72,"text":"I was thinking of cooking up a little reverse English on them by having somebody confess that it was a Democratic bloc."},{"start":74.94,"end":75.34,"text":"Okay."},{"start":76.4,"end":77.32,"text":"Okay."},{"start":77.62,"end":79.92,"text":"Well, give them hell."},{"start":80.23,"end":81.73,"text":"We will, Mr. President."},{"start":81.75,"end":82.03,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":82.05,"end":82.69,"text":"Many thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater discuss Goldwater's upcoming meeting with George Wallace, with the President requesting that he convey his personal well-wishes and offers of medical assistance to the wounded governor. The conversation shifts to the 1972 campaign, where they critique media allegations of Republican 'dirty tricks' as a non-issue outside of Washington. Goldwater proposes a strategy of using 'reverse English' by suggesting that Democratic operatives were responsible for the political mischief, to which Nixon encourages him to continue his aggressive campaign rhetoric.","topics":["1972 Presidential Election","George C. 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