{"conversationCode":"031-065","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-065","startDateTime":"1972-10-16T19:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-16T19:28:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Oct-1972","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"16-Oct-1972","endTime":"3:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On October 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 3:25 pm to 3:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-065 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 31-65\n\nDate: October 16, 1972\nTime: 3:25 pm - 3:28 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 367-10G]\n\n        The President's call to Frank E. Fitzsimmons\n            -The President's schedule\n\nColson conferred with the President at an unknown time between 3:25 pm and 3:28 pm.\n\n        Fitzsimmons's nickname\n\n[End of conferral]\n\nThe President talked with Fitzsimmons at an unknown time between 3:25 pm and 3:28 pm.\n\n[See Conversation No. 367-10G]\n\n        Fitzsimmon’s location\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 3m ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["031-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"031-064","nextCode":"031-066","transcript":[{"start":0.99,"end":3.56,"text":"Hold on just a minute, I'll be right up."},{"start":3.88,"end":4.62,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":4.76,"end":25.01,"text":"Hold on for just a moment please."},{"start":26.49,"end":27.21,"text":"Just a minute sir."},{"start":27.41,"end":28.99,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":29.19,"end":31.22,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":31.68,"end":36.05,"text":"Frank?"},{"start":36.33,"end":37.19,"text":"Hey, Mr. President."},{"start":37.25,"end":38.5,"text":"Where'd I find you?"},{"start":38.84,"end":40.1,"text":"Right in my office."},{"start":40.12,"end":40.84,"text":"In Washington?"},{"start":41.08,"end":41.45,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Charles W. Colson to facilitate a telephone call to Teamsters leader Frank E. Fitzsimmons. The discussion focused on confirming Fitzsimmons's current location in Washington and establishing his nickname prior to the President connecting with him. This brief exchange served primarily as logistical coordination to finalize the President's schedule for the afternoon.","topics":["Frank E. Fitzsimmons","Teamsters","Presidential scheduling","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:51:59.362Z"},"topicSlugs":["frank-e-fitzsimmons","teamsters","presidential-scheduling","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":55,"audioFiles":[{"file":"031-065.mp3","bytes":1332244,"durationSec":55.44,"bitrate":192243,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.233Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.103Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/031-065.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/31/conversation-031-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}