Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 031-130
Date: Wednesday, October 18, 1972 at 7:19 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-130

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[0:00] Mr. Ziegler calling you, sir.
[0:05] There you are.
[0:05] Mr. President?
[0:06] Yeah.
[0:08] Your phone call to, or from the leadership.
[0:13] There were press when they called, and at one point, Senator Mansfield and Senator Smith apparently laughed at something you said.
[0:20] In other words, being amused by it.
[0:25] And the press were asking what that was.
[0:27] Well, Senator Mansfield said he would never divulge what the president said, and so did Senator Smith.
[0:32] And I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't something new.
[0:34] It wasn't really—I think it was just about— Senator Smith said privately, apparently, to Moges that you said you were going to win two to one.
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[1:22] I heard that she was going to win two to one.
[1:24] She said, I think you're going to do better than that, man.
[1:27] I see.
[1:28] Exactly.
[1:29] I heard she would win two to one.
[1:31] You said, I hope you'll do well.
[1:33] What they were laughing about, I don't know.
[1:36] Well, it wasn't the best.
[1:37] In other words, they could say it was a coup.
[1:40] Now, Mike, as you know, is planning to go to China again.
[1:43] Right.
[1:44] That's what that was all about.
[1:45] But I didn't do it.
[1:46] I did it in double talk.
[1:47] Right.
[1:48] But I wish them out well.
[1:53] There really wasn't anything wrong that you can really report.
[2:00] Todd, just stay away from it all.
[2:02] I just did say that we had a pleasant conversation about coming to see them, and that I confidently expected to see both of them in their positions of leadership in the next congressman.
[2:19] I'm pointing out that you can't say that because that puts Mike in that position.
[2:25] That's right.
[2:26] I look forward to seeing them in the next Congress and after the election.
[2:30] I hope the next three weeks aren't too difficult for either of them, put it that way.
[2:33] All right.
[2:35] There isn't much else to say.
[2:36] No, that's fine.
[2:37] I just didn't want anything to become confused on that.
[2:41] I'm sorry to bother you, but I did want to change it.
[2:43] On the two-to-one thing, it was the other way around.
[2:45] And I thought she was going to live a two-to-one, and she said, I think you're going to do better than that.
[2:49] Okay, sir.
[2:50] Thanks a lot.
[2:51] How did the other, how did the Rogers do?
[2:53] Oh, he did great.
[2:56] I thought he did well.
[2:58] It was on ABC, and he was on ABC.
[3:02] The trade thing got good coverage tonight.
[3:04] The film from in the office played down in the middle of the news shows on each of them.
[3:12] They play the top, Watergate.
[3:14] No, no, they didn't.
[3:15] There was a little of that on tonight, but really not much.
[3:18] The top, of course, was the Kissinger and Andrews.
[3:23] All right, gross.
[3:27] We're doing fine tonight, I think.
[3:28] Good.
[3:29] Yes, sir.