{"conversationCode":"031-136","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":136,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-136","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T13:08:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:06 AM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"9:08 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Tkach, Walter R.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 9:06 am to 9:08 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-136 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 31-136\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: 9:06 am - 9:08 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Gen. Walter R. Tkach.\n\n[See Conversation No. 368-25]\n\n         Eleanor (Stegeberg) McGovern\n             -Health\n                  -The President's offer of use of medical facilities","filename":["031-136.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Tkach, Walter R."],"prevCode":"031-135","nextCode":"031-137","transcript":[{"start":1.15,"end":7.43,"text":"Walter, on a purely completely off-the-record basis, do it discreetly."},{"start":8.99,"end":14.76,"text":"You check to see if you can, as a doctor, through your medical."},{"start":16.42,"end":19.49,"text":"I see Mrs. McGovern is with the hospital again or something like that."},{"start":20.59,"end":27.66,"text":"And what you do is to check and then talk to her doctor and to say that this is just a private call that the president has."},{"start":29.71,"end":35.43,"text":"to see if they could offer any facilities that we have if they would like to use them."},{"start":35.61,"end":36.58,"text":"Right, sir."},{"start":36.6,"end":36.94,"text":"Do that."},{"start":37.12,"end":37.94,"text":"Okay."},{"start":38.1,"end":38.44,"text":"Right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs his physician, General Walter R. Tkach, to discreetly offer White House medical facilities to Eleanor McGovern following reports of her hospitalization. Nixon emphasizes that the outreach should be conducted as a private, off-the-record gesture through her personal physician. Tkach acknowledges the instruction and commits to handling the matter with the requested level of discretion.","topics":["Eleanor McGovern","Medical facilities","Discretion","White House physician","Presidential gesture"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:58:32.688Z"},"topicSlugs":["eleanor-mcgovern","medical-facilities","discretion","white-house-physician","presidential-gesture"],"audioDurationSec":44,"audioFiles":[{"file":"031-136.mp3","bytes":1050121,"durationSec":43.68,"bitrate":192329,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.233Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/031-136.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-136","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/31/conversation-031-136","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}