{"conversationCode":"031-141","tapeNumber":31,"conversationNumber":141,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-031-141","startDateTime":"1972-10-19T16:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-19T16:08:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Oct-1972","startTime":"12:07 PM","endDate":"19-Oct-1972","endTime":"12:08 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Johnson, James E.;","description":"On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and James E. Johnson talked on the telephone from 12:07 pm to 12:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-141 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 31-141\n\nDate: October 19, 1972\nTime: 12:07 pm - 12:08 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with James E. Johnson.\n\n[See Conversation No. 805-15]\n\n        Johnson's son\n            -Health\n            -Mrs. Johnson\n\n        Johnsons's schedule\n            -Wheaton College\n                -The President's talk with William F. (“Billy”) Graham","filename":["031-141.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Johnson, James E."],"prevCode":"031-140","nextCode":"031-142","transcript":[{"start":0.3,"end":1.08,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.14,"end":3.77,"text":"Mr. James Johnson, Mr. President."},{"start":4.89,"end":5.15,"text":"Hello."},{"start":5.17,"end":5.77,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":5.97,"end":15.05,"text":"Yes, I just wanted to tell you I heard about your boy and I just want to wish you the very best and you tell him we're praying for him and we know he's going to come out of it."},{"start":15.07,"end":18.08,"text":"Mr. President, that's awesome of you to say that."},{"start":18.14,"end":21.26,"text":"Well, this is one of those things that happens that..."},{"start":21.24,"end":25.73,"text":"But I know that it's going to be very hard for you and your family, but you and your wife."},{"start":26.57,"end":28.64,"text":"But just stick in there."},{"start":29.08,"end":32.34,"text":"We shall, and we're praying every day to keep the faith."},{"start":32.97,"end":35.93,"text":"And I talked to Billy Graham the other day."},{"start":35.95,"end":37.05,"text":"He said you were going to Wheaton."},{"start":37.23,"end":37.59,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":37.91,"end":38.26,"text":"Right."},{"start":38.4,"end":40.64,"text":"Well, I'm glad you're going out there."},{"start":40.66,"end":42.32,"text":"I spoke there many years ago."},{"start":42.3,"end":44.21,"text":"Oh, wonderful."},{"start":44.41,"end":48,"text":"When I was running for vice president."},{"start":48.02,"end":48.5,"text":"Oh, I see."},{"start":48.54,"end":50.55,"text":"You can say that when you speak with the president."},{"start":50.63,"end":53.01,"text":"I spoke there many years ago before most of them were born."},{"start":53.23,"end":54.08,"text":"I certainly will."},{"start":54.2,"end":54.7,"text":"Okay."},{"start":55.12,"end":55.5,"text":"I will."},{"start":55.56,"end":56.34,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":56.4,"end":57.35,"text":"Good luck to you."},{"start":57.37,"end":57.65,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":57.67,"end":57.75,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called James E. Johnson to express his personal sympathies and offer support regarding the health of Johnson's son. Beyond these condolences, the two discussed Johnson’s upcoming trip to Wheaton College. Nixon shared his own experience of speaking at the college during his vice-presidential campaign and encouraged Johnson to mention this history during his own address.","topics":["James E. Johnson","Presidential outreach","Personal health","Wheaton College","Billy Graham"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T03:58:59.734Z"},"topicSlugs":["james-e-johnson","presidential-outreach","personal-health","wheaton-college","billy-graham"],"audioDurationSec":62,"audioFiles":[{"file":"031-141.mp3","bytes":1494621,"durationSec":62.21,"bitrate":192193,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.233Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/031-141.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-141","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/31/conversation-031-141","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}