Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 31 › Conversation 031-145

Nixon phone call with Tkach on Eleanor McGovern and Medical assistance

Thursday, October 19, 1972 · 5:06 PM–5:08 PM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Tkach, Walter R.Conversation031-145 on Tape 31StartThursday, October 19, 1972 at 5:06 PMEndThursday, October 19, 1972 at 5:08 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 031-145 ↗

President Nixon and General Walter Tkach discussed the delivery of a private offer of medical assistance for Eleanor McGovern, the wife of political opponent George McGovern. Tkach confirmed that he coordinated the message through Lon Thompson, ensuring that any necessary military or civilian medical facilities and transportation would be made available. Nixon expressed satisfaction with the gesture, emphasizing the private nature of the outreach and praising Thompson's cooperation.

  • Eleanor McGovern
  • Medical assistance
  • George McGovern
  • White House outreach
  • Lon Thompson

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I know the man.
It's a civilian by the name of Lon Thompson.
As a matter of fact, years ago here, I had him for lunch one day long before home started, and he was delighted to know this and that he would convey the message during wait.
They're both out of town.
There's no one with him.
I'm surprised.
the governor, and he was overwhelmed with this gesture, and he said he would immediately convey this to... You told him it was just a private thing?
Right, sir.
I said it was between you, the other group, and he and I, so he wanted to know about it.
And you told him that any facilities...
Right, sir.
Anyone in military, civilian, that we could help on that.
So I threw another thing in at you.
I hope you didn't worry about transportation.
Sure.
All right, sir.
Good, good.
That's nice.
He was overwhelmed.
How was, uh, did he indicate what her problem was?
Yes, sir.
But he was pleased, wasn't he?
Oh, he was.
He was delighted.
Actually, he's a hell of a fine man.
I don't know what he's doing to help pick him from the government.
That's all right.
I think it's because it's his neighbor.
Sure, sure.
Well, let me just get the word to him.
Okay.
All right, sir.
Good job.
Thank you.
All right, sir.

On October 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Walter R. Tkach talked on the telephone from 5:06 pm to 5:08 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 031-145 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 31-145

Date: October 19, 1972
Time: 5:06 pm - 5:08 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Gen. Walter R. Tkach.

[See Conversation No. 370-15]

        Eleanor (Stegeberg) McGovern
            -Doctor
                 -Lon Thompson
                     -Conveyance of President’s message on medical facilities
                         -McGovern’s location
                         -Private nature of message
                         -Military or civilian
                         -Transportation

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[Privacy]
[Duration: 26s ]

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            -Thompson

                 -Relationships with McGovern
                     -Tkach’s view
  • 370-014 5:00 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:00 pm and 5:06 pm.
  • 370-015 5:06 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Walter R. Tkach met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 5:06 pm to 5:08 pm.
  • 031-146 5:10 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 5:10 pm.
  • 031-147 5:10 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:10 pm and 5:14 pm.
  • 370-016 5:10 PM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at 5:10 pm.
  • 370-017 5:10 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:10 pm and 5:14 pm.
  • 370-018 5:10 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 5:10 pm and 5:14 pm.
  • 031-148 5:14 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 5:14 pm to 5:17 pm.

Conversation 031-145, October 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/031-145 (accessed October 10, 2026).