{"conversationCode":"032-025","tapeNumber":32,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-032-025","startDateTime":"1972-10-24T20:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-24T20:16:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:04 PM","endDate":"24-Oct-1972","endTime":"4:16 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 032-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 032-025\n\nDate: October 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:04 pm and 4:16 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 373-20]\n\n        Edwin M. Schwenk\n           -Location\n               -Return to office\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                  -Return call","filename":["032-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"032-024","nextCode":"032-026","transcript":[{"start":1.06,"end":3.17,"text":"Mrs. Swank is on the road, sir."},{"start":3.37,"end":4.33,"text":"Expected at 4.30."},{"start":4.35,"end":4.69,"text":"4.30?"},{"start":6.84,"end":8.5,"text":"About 20 minutes."},{"start":8.98,"end":10.45,"text":"You can have him call me back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to facilitate a communication with Edwin M. Schwenk. Upon learning that Schwenk was currently traveling and not expected to reach his office until 4:30 p.m., the President instructed the operator to have Schwenk return the call at that time. This brief exchange served as a routine administrative coordination for a follow-up conversation.","topics":["Edwin M. Schwenk","Presidential communications","Scheduling","White House operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:02:21.553Z"},"topicSlugs":["edwin-m-schwenk","presidential-communications","scheduling","white-house-operations"],"audioDurationSec":16,"audioFiles":[{"file":"032-025.mp3","bytes":384939,"durationSec":15.97,"bitrate":192790,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.233Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.402Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/032-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/032-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/32/conversation-032-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}