Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 032-027 Date: Tuesday, October 24, 1972 at 7:31 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/032-027 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:01] Yes, sir. [0:03] I've been thinking about this proposition, and the more I think about it is that you and I have got to work on this together. [0:14] We've got to [0:15] Henry off the Hanoi thing. [0:17] If they want to break, they can break, but we cannot have him go to Hanoi. [0:20] That's my view. [0:20] That will have a devastating effect, not only in South Vietnamese, but a devastating effect here at home. [0:26] I think so. [0:26] And we'll just say, all right, I'm sorry, he can't go. [0:29] We'll go right after election. [0:31] He can't go now. [0:32] If it's a winner and we've got an agreement, it's fine. [0:35] No, but we're not going to go to Hanoi hat in hand. [0:38] The second point is, would you call McGregor and tell him to take a very hard line [0:43] I noticed that the Star had something that I ordered. [0:45] It turned down to the bombing and the rest, which I didn't like. [0:49] But, you know, it was inevitable it came up. [0:50] But he's picked a hard line with regard to, I already told him, no coalition government. [0:57] And the only reason we're doing this is because negotiations are in progress. [1:00] But you see what I mean is right now, take a tough lie, not a soft lie. [1:04] Absolutely. [1:05] Why don't you do that? [1:06] Absolutely. [1:07] But when Henry gets back, and we'll talk in the morning, in the coolness of the morning, but there's no Hanoi trip under any circumstances at all. [1:13] It can't be done. [1:14] Well, I think it's a great security. [1:16] He had a luncheon today with his son of a bitch, and we got a proposal. [1:20] Yeah, sure. [1:22] They say, well, if he'd go to Hanoi. [1:23] That just plays right into Henry's hands. [1:25] Now, Henry's just panting to an annoy. [1:27] He's not going to go. [1:29] And I'm going to have to tell him and break him on it because he must not go. [1:33] That could be very devastating to us at home. [1:36] That's right. [1:37] Okay. [1:38] Good. [1:38] Thank you.