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Conversation 032-053

TapeTape 32StartThursday, October 26, 1972 at 12:36 PMEndThursday, October 26, 1972 at 12:38 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Andrews, John K., Jr.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On October 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John K. Andrews, Jr. talked on the telephone from 12:36 pm to 12:38 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 032-053 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 32-53

Date: October 26, 1972
Time: 12:36 pm - 12:38 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with John K. Andrews, Jr.

[See Conversation No. 375-10]

        The President's defense radio speech
            -The President's remarks in San Francisco
                -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
            -Nuclear deterrent
                -Great powers
                -Effect on small powers
            -Andre Malraux
                -Quotation
                     -Power of US
            -Use of US power
                -US intentions
            -Malraux
                -Quotation
            -American Legion speech
            -San Francisco speech
            -US power
                -Position in world
                -Small powers
                     -Israel
                          -Syria
                -Sixth Fleet
                -Naval superiority
                     -Importance
            -Draft
                -Submission
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                      NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. Oct-06)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Mr. John Andrews on the line, sir.
Yes, sir.
With regard to the defense speech, I know that Haldeman has already passed on to you the thoughts that read carefully what I said in San Francisco.
I mean, you'll probably get the nuances of that with regard to small countries.
Do you understand what I mean?
Yes, sir, about the insufficiency of a nuclear deterrent.
A nuclear deterrent is nothing except where great powers are concerned.
It has nothing to do
gives no assurance where things break out and other things now the other thing is that use the uh andrea marrow's quote with regard to the u.s is the only part of the world that became a great power without seeking to become one the whole theme here is of course that the united states is one that should be trapped with power it's fortunate we have the power and uh for uh the uh
the idea that we would never use our power for conquest, et cetera.
You see what I mean?
Yes, sir.
That theme that you've often used.
Right.
But use Mauro's quote.
Mauro.
Mauro.
Right.
You know, Mauro.
Yes, sir.
I know him.
But he has a quote on that.
The U.S. is the only power in the history of the world
world power without intending to do so or something like that.
Okay?
We'll get that.
Okay.
And I've been studying the Allegiant speech and the San Francisco speech and I'm...
The main thing is the whole thrust of this is that being number two means the world is in deadly jeopardy.
You can use in this instance you can well I wouldn't do it in a public speech the Israel thing that Israel would be in deadly jeopardy because of this.
You mentioned Israel as an example of a small country that would be threatened.
No, that's right.
That's right.
As an example, that is, we would not have been able, when the crisis occurred, the Syria and so forth, we wouldn't have had a sixth fleet.
We couldn't have moved in.
The United States must not have the second strongest fleet in the world.
Maybe.
We've got to be first.
And this is for Saturday?
If we can, yes.
Yes, sir.
We'll have it ready.
I'll have a draft, I think, by the end of the day.
Good day.
Thank you very much.
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