{"conversationCode":"032-057","tapeNumber":32,"conversationNumber":57,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-032-057","startDateTime":"1972-10-26T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-26T18:51:00.000Z","startDate":"26-Oct-1972","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"26-Oct-1972","endTime":"2:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.;","description":"On October 26, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone from 2:50 pm to 2:51 pm. 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Kissinger's briefing\n           -The President's suggestion\n                -1972 election\n                    -Audience at briefing\n                    -US interest in lasting peace\n                         -Laos settlement\n           -Laos settlement\n                -The President’s view\n                    -Lasting peace\n           -The President’s goals in Vietnam","filename":["032-057.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haig, Alexander M., Jr."],"prevCode":"032-056","nextCode":"032-058","transcript":[{"start":1.33,"end":1.73,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.75,"end":3.67,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.07,"end":13.47,"text":"As Henry's preparing, I don't want to bother him, but to put this thought to him, a major point that I know has to be covered is this thing about the election thing, you know."},{"start":13.49,"end":14.47,"text":"Oh, absolutely."},{"start":14.49,"end":16.39,"text":"And apparently that didn't get across."},{"start":16.53,"end":21.06,"text":"No, well, there wasn't a good audience for that, but guys we can hit."},{"start":21.22,"end":26.93,"text":"You had too mixed a group in there to make the point that they were all timetable working on them."},{"start":27.49,"end":27.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.18,"end":28.76,"text":"That's right."},{"start":28.78,"end":29.28,"text":"That's the time."},{"start":29.3,"end":36.17,"text":"But I would put it, you've got to put it in words people understand, say, our interest is the right kind of peace, a peace that will last."},{"start":36.79,"end":42.98,"text":"Not the kind of peace we had after, we've been around this track in 1962 in the settlement on Laos."},{"start":43.02,"end":43.86,"text":"Did he make that point?"},{"start":44.42,"end":44.96,"text":"Yes."},{"start":45.04,"end":48.44,"text":"Well, he said yes, that you had given him instructions."},{"start":48.46,"end":50.77,"text":"Yeah, but I mean, let me make the point to you."},{"start":51.35,"end":52.85,"text":"In Laos, we had a settlement."},{"start":54.65,"end":58.13,"text":"It was a, but however, it led to just a continued war."},{"start":58.45,"end":60,"text":"time, we want a peace that will last."},{"start":60.02,"end":68.56,"text":"In other words, and then you could say what the president says, our interest is not peace for the next election, but peace for the next generation."},{"start":68.82,"end":69.04,"text":"Right."},{"start":69.72,"end":70.87,"text":"I'm going to use that phrase."},{"start":71.13,"end":71.73,"text":"Good."},{"start":71.75,"end":72.03,"text":"Okay."},{"start":72.29,"end":73.03,"text":"Fine, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. regarding the messaging strategy for Henry Kissinger’s upcoming briefings on Vietnam. Nixon emphasized the importance of distinguishing his administration's pursuit of a lasting, generational peace from the flawed 1962 Laos settlement that failed to end conflict. 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