Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 032-114 Date: Wednesday, November 1, 1972 at 10:45 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Scali, John A. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/032-114 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:00] Yeah. [0:01] Mr. Scali. [0:02] Yeah. [0:02] Yes, sir. [0:03] John, I had a good talk with Sonny Jergensen on the phone. [0:06] He is very depressed. [0:08] It was a terribly difficult decision. [0:10] And I said, oh, what the hell? [0:11] The redheads never... [0:11] I said, the redheads never give up. [0:13] I said, well, I've been out for two years in this way. [0:16] And I said, but you've got something. [0:18] Nobody else has a great arm. [0:19] And I said, you've got to think about it and so forth and so on. [0:25] I want to tell you, I don't want to put this out that I called him. [0:29] If it gets out, let him do it. [0:31] It looks like we're exploiting the damn thing. [0:33] I understand. [0:34] So I just want to tell you that I had done it, however. [0:37] And if it gets out, you can confirm. [0:40] Okay? [0:40] Very good, sir. [0:41] All right, John. [0:42] Thank you.