{"conversationCode":"032-138","tapeNumber":32,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-032-138","startDateTime":"1972-11-02T15:49:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-02T15:50:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:49 AM","endDate":"2-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:50 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Price, Raymond K., Jr.;","description":"On November 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Raymond K. Price, Jr. talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:49 am and 10:50 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 032-138 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 032-138\n\nDate: November 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:49 am and 10:50 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n\n[See Conversation No. 376-24]\n\n        The President's schedule\n            -Speeches\n                -Text\n                     -Time\n                     -Preparation\n                     -Talking points\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["032-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Price, Raymond K., Jr."],"prevCode":"032-137","nextCode":"032-139","transcript":[{"start":1.28,"end":8.01,"text":"On reflection, the Tuesday thing definitely will not be a text."},{"start":8.11,"end":18.02,"text":"Of course, Monday will not be under any circumstances, but Tuesday can't because I think it sounds too smug and complacent that I had it all written out in advance and all that sort of thing."},{"start":18.06,"end":27.97,"text":"And I think reading something like that, so I'd just rather get sort of a good talking point for both nights."},{"start":28.37,"end":28.47,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and speechwriter Raymond Price consult on the strategy for upcoming public addresses to avoid appearing overly scripted or arrogant. Nixon decides against using a formal written text, favoring a more spontaneous delivery through talking points to project a less complacent tone. The pair determines that both potential broadcast opportunities should rely on this improvised format rather than a prepared speech.","topics":["Presidential rhetoric","Speechwriting","Public relations","Communication strategy","Election campaign"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:12:47.241Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-rhetoric","speechwriting","public-relations","communication-strategy","election-campaign"],"audioDurationSec":34,"audioFiles":[{"file":"032-138.mp3","bytes":827558,"durationSec":34.43,"bitrate":192306,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.234Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.412Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/032-138.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/032-138","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/32/conversation-032-138","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}