{"conversationCode":"032-163","tapeNumber":32,"conversationNumber":163,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-032-163","startDateTime":"1972-11-03T14:22:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-03T14:24:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Nov-1972","startTime":"9:22 AM","endDate":"3-Nov-1972","endTime":"9:24 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Case, Clifford P.;","description":"On November 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Clifford P. Case talked on the telephone from 9:22 am to 9:24 am. 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Case.\n\n[See Conversation No. 391-24]\n\n        Greetings\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 01/25/2018.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[032-163-w001]\n[Duration: 53s]\n\n       1972 election\n              -The President's trips\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                     -Senate race candidates\n               -New Jersey senate race\n                     -Clifford P. Case's prospects\n                             -Polls\n                                     -Landslide\n                     -The President's campaign\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n        Vietnam\n            -Negotiations\n                -Break-through\n                    -The President’s recent statement\n                -Cases’s possible future statements\n                -North Vietnam commitment\n                    -Compared with previous bombing halt\n                -Agreements\n                    -Prisoners of war [POWs]\n                    -Ceasefire\n                    -Electoral commission\n                -Remaining differences\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 01/25/2018.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[032-163-w003]\n[Duration: 26s]\n\n       1972 election\n              -Case's campaign\n              -The President's trips\n                      -Oklahoma\n                             -Close race\n              -Get out the vote\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["032-163.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Case, Clifford P."],"prevCode":"032-162","nextCode":"032-164","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":0.86,"text":"Hello."},{"start":0.94,"end":14.4,"text":"The President."},{"start":14.98,"end":21.81,"text":"As I said last night, we're still have, we're confident that we've made the major breakthrough in the negotiations."},{"start":21.85,"end":29.62,"text":"It would be well for you to keep that line without making it very, making the point at"},{"start":30.24,"end":35.04,"text":"statement that I did, that we want it all nailed down so that they won't break up like the bombing hall."},{"start":35.08,"end":37.55,"text":"We don't want to do it as an election year trick."},{"start":37.73,"end":39.11,"text":"No question about that."},{"start":39.25,"end":42.17,"text":"And it seems to me everything has been handled exactly right."},{"start":42.2,"end":52.13,"text":"But the breakthrough has occurred because we've agreed on the prisoners, we've agreed on the ceasefire, and we've agreed on the electoral commission."},{"start":52.31,"end":59.08,"text":"But there are some knotty problems about withdrawals and forces and all that sort of thing, which will be worked out, in my opinion."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon briefed Senator Clifford P. Case on the status of Vietnam peace negotiations, emphasizing that a major breakthrough had been achieved regarding prisoners of war, a ceasefire, and an electoral commission. Nixon urged Case to maintain a supportive public stance while reiterating that the administration remained cautious to ensure the final agreement was substantive rather than a mere political maneuver. The President acknowledged that remaining issues concerning force withdrawals were still being negotiated but expressed confidence in a successful resolution.","topics":["Vietnam War","Peace negotiations","Prisoners of war","Ceasefire","Clifford P. 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