{"conversationCode":"033-013","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-013","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T14:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:04:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"9:55 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:55 am and 10:04 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-13\n\nDate: November 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:55 am and 10:04 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House Operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 389-11D]\n\n       Request for a call to Thomas J. Meskill","filename":["033-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"033-012","nextCode":"033-014","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":5.29,"text":"Mescalon."},{"start":5.31,"end":7.98,"text":"Yes, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to initiate an outgoing call to Connecticut Governor Thomas J. Meskill. This brief exchange served solely as a functional administrative request to connect the President with the governor. No further policy discussions or substantive developments occurred during this brief interaction.","topics":["Thomas J. Meskill","White House operations","Presidential communication","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:16:59.764Z"},"topicSlugs":["thomas-j-meskill","white-house-operations","presidential-communication","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-013.mp3","bytes":212776,"durationSec":8.73,"bitrate":194968,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.234Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}