{"conversationCode":"033-018","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-018","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:13:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:14:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:13 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:14 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Boggs, J. Caleb; DuPont, Pierre S.;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, J. Caleb Boggs, and Pierre S. DuPont talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:13 am and 10:14 am. 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Caleb Boggs.\n\n[This is the original beginning of Conversation No. 033-018, which has been merged with\nConversation No. 033-017.]\n\n[See Conversation No. 389-11I]\n\n       Greetings\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       1972 Election\n            -Boggs\n                  -The President’s schedule\n                  -Support for the President in Senate\n            -Delaware\n                  -Campaign in New Castle\n                  -The President's vacations\n                       -Rehoboth Beach\n            -The President's visits after election\n\nPierre S. Dupont, IV joined the conversation at an unknown time before 10:14 am.\n\n       1972 Election\n            -Dupont's campaign\n            -The President's campaign\n                  -Delaware\n\f                                            - 21 -\n\n                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)\n\n                       -Boggs\n                       -Governor [Russell W. Peterson]\n            -The President's Schedule\n                 -North Carolina\n                 -New Mexico\n                 -California\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["033-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Boggs, J. Caleb","DuPont, Pierre S."],"prevCode":"033-017","nextCode":"033-019","transcript":[{"start":0.69,"end":1.83,"text":"Hey, Arm."},{"start":2.09,"end":3.25,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.27,"end":4.01,"text":"Mr. Boxer."},{"start":4.04,"end":4.46,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.48,"end":5.16,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":5.92,"end":13.43,"text":"Well, when you've only got two days left, Kale, I just want you to know that while I can't get there in person, that my thoughts are with you."},{"start":13.65,"end":18.5,"text":"You've been a tower of strength in that United States Senate, and in these next four years, we need you here."},{"start":19.14,"end":21.25,"text":"And I just wanted you to know that..."},{"start":21.58,"end":25.73,"text":"I hope the voters of Delaware will not break up the team of Mobs and Nixon."},{"start":25.75,"end":27.17,"text":"It's been a good one for over the years."},{"start":27.19,"end":28.97,"text":"We want to keep it going for four more years."},{"start":29.19,"end":34.46,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President, and we're looking forward to continuing to work with you on the goals for America."},{"start":34.96,"end":39.75,"text":"You've been doing a great job, and the people in our state are appreciative of your interest."},{"start":40.15,"end":43.67,"text":"You've taken in Delaware and what you're doing for the nation."},{"start":44.02,"end":46.77,"text":"It's just a privilege to work with you."},{"start":47.35,"end":50.42,"text":"I'm campaigning in Newcastle today, historic Newcastle."},{"start":50.64,"end":52.16,"text":"You give them all my best there."},{"start":52.34,"end":53.23,"text":"I give them your best."},{"start":53.25,"end":59.92,"text":"And tell them I have such good memories of my visits, vacations in Delaware and Rehoboth and the rest."},{"start":60.56,"end":63.92,"text":"So many good friends, my many appearances in Wilmington."},{"start":64.53,"end":66.03,"text":"We've always been honored to have you."},{"start":66.59,"end":68.83,"text":"We want you many more times in the future."},{"start":69.17,"end":80.06,"text":"Yeah, well, I'll come back when, let me say, I'll come back at a time, Cale, when I'm not asking for votes, but just to say thank you very much."},{"start":80.4,"end":80.7,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":80.74,"end":82.7,"text":"Listen, Congressman Pete DuPont is here."},{"start":82.72,"end":84.14,"text":"Sure, let me say hello to him."},{"start":84.19,"end":85.67,"text":"Would you say a word to him, Mr. DuPont?"},{"start":85.69,"end":85.89,"text":"Sure."},{"start":86.07,"end":87.55,"text":"Here he is right here."},{"start":88.59,"end":89.72,"text":"Good morning, Mr. President."},{"start":89.73,"end":100.29,"text":"I understand you're doing very well in that state, and I just hope that you and, as I told Kale, that you and Kale come through with flying colors, because we're going to look forward to working with you"},{"start":100.67,"end":102.08,"text":"over these next four years."},{"start":102.11,"end":103.16,"text":"Well, I appreciate that."},{"start":103.26,"end":105.3,"text":"And, of course, with the governor, too."},{"start":105.42,"end":108.56,"text":"We're going to carry Delaware by a tremendous landslide."},{"start":108.97,"end":114.81,"text":"Well, we want it for all of us, including our senator, congressman, governor, the whole ticket."},{"start":114.83,"end":121.7,"text":"Well, we're working at it, and we certainly appreciate all the help you've given us along the way, and very best of luck in the last couple of days in your campaign."},{"start":121.68,"end":127.54,"text":"I'll be over in North Carolina in a few minutes, or a couple hours, and then over to New Mexico and then in California."},{"start":127.56,"end":128.38,"text":"So it's a light day."},{"start":130.37,"end":133.88,"text":"Sir, well, keep at it, and we'll look forward to a big celebration."},{"start":134.26,"end":134.78,"text":"Great."},{"start":135.12,"end":135.42,"text":"Great."},{"start":135.44,"end":136.06,"text":"Thank you, Pete."},{"start":136.09,"end":136.51,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":136.55,"end":139.46,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon held a brief campaign-focused telephone call with Senator J. Caleb Boggs and Congressman Pierre S. DuPont shortly before the 1972 election. Nixon expressed his support for their respective candidacies in Delaware, highlighting his appreciation for their past cooperation and his affinity for the state. The participants discussed the final stages of the campaign, and Nixon briefly outlined his own upcoming travel schedule to North Carolina, New Mexico, and California.","topics":["1972 Election","Delaware politics","Campaign strategy","Nixon travel schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:17:29.258Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-election","delaware-politics","campaign-strategy","nixon-travel-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":139,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-018.mp3","bytes":3348736,"durationSec":139.41,"bitrate":192162,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.234Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.778Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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