{"conversationCode":"033-021","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-021","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:28:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:20 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:28 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:20 am and 10:28 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-21\n\nDate: November 4, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:20 am and 10:28 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 389-11L]\n\n       Request for a call to Robert Hirsch","filename":["033-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"033-020","nextCode":"033-022","transcript":[{"start":4.49,"end":5.59,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Robert Hirsch. This brief exchange served as a logistical request to facilitate communication with Hirsch. No further substantive policy or political discussions were recorded during this connection.","topics":["White House operations","Robert Hirsch","Communications","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:17:45.538Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-operations","robert-hirsch","communications","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-021.mp3","bytes":210270,"durationSec":8.64,"bitrate":194743,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:28.234Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}