{"conversationCode":"033-027","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-027","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:44:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:41 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:44 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Dole, Robert J.;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Robert J. Dole talked on the telephone from 10:41 am to 10:44 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-027 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-27\n\nDate: November 4, 1972\nTime: 10:41 am - 10:44 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Robert J. Dole.\n\n[See Conversation No. 389-12A]\n\n       Greetings\n\n       Dole's location\n             -Kansas\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n       1972 election\n            -Dole's campaign\n            -James P. Pearson\n                   -Location\n\f                                            - 30 -\n\n                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)\n\n            -Morris Kay\n            -Charles (“Chuck”) McAtee\n                  -The President's best wishes\n            -Republican ticket\n            -Dole's effort outside of Kansas\n            -Kansas campaigns\n                  -Pearson\n            -The President's supporters\n\n[Applause in background]\n\n      1972 election\n           -The President's schedule\n                  -Kansas\n                       -Importance\n                             -The President’s view\n                       -Kansas State University\n                             -School colors\n                       -The President’s possible visit\n                       -University of Kansas\n\n[Applause in background]\n\n            -1972 election\n                  -Kay\n                        -Football\n                              -The President’s athletic career\n                        -Television [TV]\n                  -Chuck McAtee\n                        -Background\n                              -Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI]\n                  -Republicans\n                  -Kay and McAttee\n                        -Letters from the President\n            -Alfred M. Landon\n                  -Possible call from Dole\n                        -Republican National Convention\n                  -Location\n                        -Horseback riding\n            -Pearson\n\f                                            - 31 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["033-027.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Dole, Robert J."],"prevCode":"033-026","nextCode":"033-028","transcript":[{"start":0.37,"end":2.52,"text":"Senator Dole, Mr. President?"},{"start":3.74,"end":3.88,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.77,"end":4.97,"text":"All right."},{"start":4.99,"end":5.93,"text":"Hey."},{"start":5.95,"end":6.48,"text":"You are."},{"start":6.5,"end":7.6,"text":"Hello."},{"start":7.62,"end":8.27,"text":"Yes, how are you?"},{"start":8.35,"end":9.45,"text":"Are you in Kansas?"},{"start":9.73,"end":10.54,"text":"I'm in Kansas."},{"start":10.55,"end":14.54,"text":"I left there this morning to get out here to receive a phone call from the president of the United States."},{"start":14.56,"end":20.05,"text":"Yeah, well, I just called for the reasons that you know, to wish you the very best."},{"start":21.47,"end":23.44,"text":"I think you've got Jim Pearson there with you, haven't you?"},{"start":23.66,"end":24.34,"text":"Jim couldn't be here."},{"start":24.38,"end":27.84,"text":"I've got our next governor, Morris Kahn, a new congressman, and Chuck McAtee."},{"start":27.86,"end":28.89,"text":"They're both with me."},{"start":28.98,"end":30.97,"text":"Well, you give both of them my best."},{"start":30.99,"end":37.38,"text":"Tell them that, as I am saying in all of my talks today and yesterday, we support our whole ticket."},{"start":38.02,"end":46.99,"text":"Let me say that in your case, your splendid work at the national level has taken you away from Kansas more than you would like."},{"start":48.13,"end":51.41,"text":"We greatly appreciate it."},{"start":51.99,"end":61.33,"text":"I think if we can have that old dual fight there in Kansas, that close race for governor, we've got our chance."},{"start":61.38,"end":63.57,"text":"I know Jim Pearson is way ahead."},{"start":64.09,"end":65.49,"text":"Now, Jim is in a waltz."},{"start":66.71,"end":67.61,"text":"Cakewalk."},{"start":67.63,"end":73.82,"text":"Mr. President, about 200 people are likely to respond and greet you if you've got a second."},{"start":74.08,"end":84.38,"text":"Sure."},{"start":90.16,"end":105.84,"text":"Bob, I want to say, too, that while I could not get to Kansas during the campaign, that I am well aware of the fact that Kansas is one of our banner states in every election."},{"start":105.86,"end":107.55,"text":"I've just been looking at the statistics here."},{"start":108.65,"end":114.28,"text":"I also remember, will never forget my visit to Kansas State, you know, when I wore the purple."},{"start":115.38,"end":118.58,"text":"And I want you to tell the folks there in the room,"},{"start":118.86,"end":132.72,"text":"that i hope to get to kansas in the next four years and get to the university of kansas so we play both sides equally if that's fair enough and i think i think football fits pretty well here because i noticed morris k is a football"},{"start":133.28,"end":135.8,"text":"player, a star, which I was not."},{"start":135.86,"end":136.6,"text":"I was on the bench."},{"start":137.38,"end":142.79,"text":"But I know he's on a TV blitz, and that's going to close that gap, and he's going to win."},{"start":143.13,"end":151.3,"text":"And Chuck McAtee, who's standing on my right, is a former FBI man, a highly qualified man, who will make our Kansas delegation again nonpartisan."},{"start":151.38,"end":152.42,"text":"That means all Republican."},{"start":152.86,"end":154.38,"text":"That's right."},{"start":154.4,"end":155.1,"text":"Well, that's great."},{"start":155.72,"end":157.96,"text":"And give Charles my very, very best."},{"start":157.98,"end":159.63,"text":"I've written both of them letters, of course."},{"start":159.71,"end":160.67,"text":"And"},{"start":160.83,"end":163.24,"text":"I back it up with what I'm saying to you today."},{"start":163.72,"end":165.7,"text":"Well, we very much appreciate your call, Mr. President."},{"start":165.72,"end":169.62,"text":"We know you have a busy day, and we're happy to have your support."},{"start":169.86,"end":180.06,"text":"And if, among all the other many people that you speak to today in Kansas, if you would mind giving Alf Landon a call and tell him that I will always appreciate the fine things he said at the convention."},{"start":180.08,"end":180.76,"text":"Alf may be here."},{"start":180.78,"end":183.82,"text":"He's probably on horseback riding, Mr. President."},{"start":185.18,"end":188.81,"text":"We appreciate it very much, and I'll send your best wishes to Jim Pearson."},{"start":189.43,"end":189.51,"text":"Yes."},{"start":190.06,"end":195.18,"text":"And we're all for the present here for four more years, and we thank you very much."},{"start":195.2,"end":195.68,"text":"Okay."},{"start":196.32,"end":197.42,"text":"Good luck, Bob."},{"start":198.31,"end":198.47,"text":"Bye-bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon called Senator Robert Dole while the latter was in Kansas to offer campaign support and well wishes to Republican candidates Morris Kay and Chuck McAtee. The discussion focused on bolstering the GOP ticket in Kansas, specifically emphasizing the importance of securing a win for the gubernatorial race. Nixon expressed his appreciation for Dole's national campaigning efforts and agreed to reach out to former Governor Alf Landon as a gesture of party unity.","topics":["1972 Presidential Election","Kansas politics","Republican Party","Campaign strategy","Robert Dole","Alf Landon"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:18:19.434Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-presidential-election","kansas-politics","republican-party","campaign-strategy","robert-dole","alf-landon"],"audioDurationSec":200,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-027.mp3","bytes":4791286,"durationSec":199.51,"bitrate":192126,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.779Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-027.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-027","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-027","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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