{"conversationCode":"033-028","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-028","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T15:47:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"10:45 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"10:47 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Mills, William;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and William Mills talked on the telephone from 10:45 am to 10:47 am. 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Ehrlichman\n                       -Advice on city affairs\n\f                                              - 32 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)","filename":["033-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Mills, William"],"prevCode":"033-027","nextCode":"033-029","transcript":[{"start":0.52,"end":1.12,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.14,"end":2.52,"text":"Mr. President, Mr. Billy Mills for you."},{"start":5.67,"end":6.89,"text":"Good morning, Mr. President."},{"start":6.91,"end":7.89,"text":"Good morning, Mr. Councilman."},{"start":7.97,"end":17.34,"text":"I just wanted to call you to thank you for the expression of support that you gave."},{"start":17.36,"end":22.65,"text":"I had a letter from our mutual friend Howard Allen."},{"start":22.67,"end":22.99,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":23.01,"end":23.85,"text":"And he told me about it."},{"start":24.39,"end":27.56,"text":"And let me say that I want you to know that"},{"start":28.31,"end":34.1,"text":"The next four years, I look forward to working with you for the causes that you're deeply interested in."},{"start":35.16,"end":44.45,"text":"I know that you take a lot of heat sometimes from some of your colleagues when you move in this direction, but I greatly appreciate it, and I will not forget it."},{"start":44.95,"end":54.76,"text":"Well, Mr. President, I'm very grateful for some very good years that you've given us, and I have received an awful lot of assistance and help"},{"start":55.23,"end":61.5,"text":"from your White House staff and from the various departments and the programs that we've tried to put together here."},{"start":61.52,"end":77.64,"text":"And I thought that the very least that I could do at a time when you were trying very hard to get support from all elements in our community, that I should come and express that gratitude and that help and that support."},{"start":77.66,"end":81.3,"text":"I do look forward to working with you in the next four years, and I hope that"},{"start":81.89,"end":84.39,"text":"If you see the need, that you can call me anytime."},{"start":84.42,"end":85.58,"text":"I'd love to be of service."},{"start":85.76,"end":86.46,"text":"I appreciate that."},{"start":86.52,"end":92.44,"text":"Let me say that we have welcomed the opportunity to work with you."},{"start":92.84,"end":108.12,"text":"And this door of this Oval Office will be open to you for not only the needs of the community at large, but particularly of those in the black community, because we want everybody in this"},{"start":108.57,"end":114.78,"text":"agree to have a chance, and that's the way to do it, to be sure that the White House is the place where everybody can come."},{"start":115.29,"end":115.53,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":115.55,"end":116.51,"text":"I appreciate this."},{"start":116.53,"end":120.28,"text":"And as I said, I do look forward to working with you."},{"start":120.3,"end":122.36,"text":"We do have some thoughts."},{"start":122.81,"end":127.72,"text":"considered here in Los Angeles something of an expert on the problems that bother our cities."},{"start":127.74,"end":128.14,"text":"Right."},{"start":128.16,"end":129.98,"text":"And I do look forward to working with you."},{"start":130.2,"end":136.77,"text":"On that score, if you would do this, if you would be in touch with John Ehrlichman, whom I think you know."},{"start":137.01,"end":138.29,"text":"Yes, I do."},{"start":138.47,"end":142.38,"text":"He's getting together some of our thoughts looking forward to the next term."},{"start":142.76,"end":143.14,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":143.18,"end":147.33,"text":"And he will consider you to be one of our top advisors on city affairs."},{"start":147.57,"end":148.25,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":148.23,"end":158.35,"text":"uh if you will be in touch with him give him a couple weeks off first at the election though will you yes okay i'll do that all right good luck to you and get my best everybody there thank you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Los Angeles Councilman William Mills spoke to exchange mutual expressions of support ahead of the 1972 election. Mills thanked the President for past assistance provided to his community by the White House, while Nixon reaffirmed his commitment to keeping the administration accessible to the Black community. 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