{"conversationCode":"033-032","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":32,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-032","startDateTime":"1972-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-04T16:02:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Nov-1972","startTime":"11:01 AM","endDate":"4-Nov-1972","endTime":"11:02 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On November 4, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 11:01 am to 11:02 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-032 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-32\n\nDate: November 4, 1972\nTime: 11:01 am - 11:02 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n[See Conversation No. 389-17]\n\n       Ronald L. Ziegler's schedule\n            -Briefing\n            -Meeting with President","filename":["033-032.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"033-031","nextCode":"033-033","transcript":[{"start":0.98,"end":1.36,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.52,"end":3.08,"text":"It's a secret."},{"start":3.1,"end":4.17,"text":"Well, you haven't had your briefing yet?"},{"start":4.65,"end":5.79,"text":"No, I'm not briefing today, sir."},{"start":6.05,"end":6.73,"text":"Oh, that's good."},{"start":6.77,"end":7.27,"text":"That's good."},{"start":7.31,"end":7.57,"text":"Fine."},{"start":9.14,"end":10.68,"text":"Why don't you drop over here then?"},{"start":10.96,"end":11.59,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":11.99,"end":12.49,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate a meeting at the White House to discuss unspecified matters. After confirming that Ziegler is not scheduled for a press briefing that day, the President directs him to come over immediately. This brief interaction serves as a routine scheduling check-in to facilitate a private consultation between the two officials.","topics":["Scheduling","White House Staff","Press Relations","Presidential Meetings"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:18:47.003Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","white-house-staff","press-relations","presidential-meetings"],"audioDurationSec":14,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-032.mp3","bytes":343784,"durationSec":14.21,"bitrate":193536,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-032.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-032","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-032","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}