{"conversationCode":"033-038","tapeNumber":33,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-033-038","startDateTime":"1972-11-08T00:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-08T00:41:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Nov-1972","startTime":"7:40 PM","endDate":"7-Nov-1972","endTime":"7:41 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On November 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 7:40 pm to 7:41 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-038 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":"5.1","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part I","chronReleaseDate":"11-Jul-2007","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 33-38\n\nDate: November 7, 1972\nTime: 7:40 pm - 7:41 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nRose Mary Woods talked with the President.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/09/2019.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[033-038-w001]\n[Duration: 54s]\n\f                                            - 39 -\n\n                            NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY\n\n                                                         Conversation No. 33-114 (cont’d)\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n       1972 elections\n            -Returns\n                   -Outlook\n                         -The President\n                         -Woods","filename":["033-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"033-037","nextCode":"033-039","transcript":[{"start":2.46,"end":2.98,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3,"end":4.3,"text":"Mr. President, Miss Woods."},{"start":4.96,"end":5.48,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.41,"end":6.61,"text":"You are."},{"start":6.62,"end":17.16,"text":"Hello."},{"start":17.18,"end":17.5,"text":"All right."},{"start":18.06,"end":18.6,"text":"All right."},{"start":18.62,"end":18.92,"text":"Fine, Rose."},{"start":18.94,"end":19.28,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":19.3,"end":19.8,"text":"Thanks."},{"start":19.82,"end":21,"text":"Everything looks great, doesn't it?"},{"start":21.22,"end":21.56,"text":"What's that?"},{"start":21.78,"end":22.78,"text":"Everything looks great."},{"start":24.32,"end":25.3,"text":"Oh, I haven't followed it much."},{"start":25.36,"end":26.5,"text":"I'm waiting until 8.30."},{"start":26.52,"end":27.15,"text":"I know."},{"start":27.17,"end":28.81,"text":"I know you do, but it still looks great."},{"start":29.59,"end":31.27,"text":"You think so, huh?"},{"start":31.29,"end":31.37,"text":"Yes."},{"start":31.51,"end":31.59,"text":"Yes."},{"start":31.77,"end":34.22,"text":"I'm very pleased."},{"start":34.26,"end":53.92,"text":"So far it looks marvelous."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary Rose Mary Woods briefly discussed the initial positive outlook of the 1972 presidential election returns on the evening of Election Day. Despite the President's cautious stance as he awaited further results later that night, Woods expressed strong optimism regarding the early favorable projections. Their exchange highlights the expectant atmosphere at the White House as the landslide victory began to take shape.","topics":["1972 election","Election returns","Rose Mary Woods","Richard Nixon","White House atmosphere"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T04:19:19.853Z"},"topicSlugs":["1972-election","election-returns","rose-mary-woods","richard-nixon","white-house-atmosphere"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"033-038.mp3","bytes":1296100,"durationSec":53.87,"bitrate":192477,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:29.541Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:40.781Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/033-038.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/033-038","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/33/conversation-033-038","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}