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Conversation 033-042

TapeTape 33StartTuesday, November 7, 1972 at 7:54 PMEndTuesday, November 7, 1972 at 7:57 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Eisenhower, [Dwight] David, IIRecording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon and David Eisenhower communicated via telephone on election night to review real-time projections and early returns from various states. They discussed specific outcomes for the presidential race, Senate contests, and state-level voter turnout metrics provided by news networks like CBS and NBC. The exchange focused on assessing the candidate's electoral strength in key regions, including Alabama, Illinois, and Ohio, while acknowledging the uncertainty of early returns in close races.

1972 electionElection returnsSenate racesPresidential politicsVoter turnout
AudioNARA Description

On November 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II talked on the telephone from 7:54 pm to 7:57 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 033-042 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 33-42

Date: November 7, 1972
Time: Between 7:54 - 7:57 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II.


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[Begin segment reviewed under deed of gift]

       Greetings

       1972 election
            -Alabama
                   -The President
                   -Winton M. Blount
            -Connecticut
                   -Projections
                   -Waterbury
            -Alabama
                   -Projections
                         -Columbia Broadcasting Company [CBS]
                         -National Broadcasting Company [NBC]
            -Georgia
                   -Projections
                         -Democratic candidate Sam Nunn
            -Illinois
                   -Projections
                         -The President
                         -Charles H. Percy
                               -Compared to the President
                                     -Chicago
                                           -Cook County
                         -CBS
                               -Percy
            -Indiana
            -Kentucky
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                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY

                                     Tape Subject Log
                                       (rev. June-07)

                                                        Conversation No. 33-42 (cont’d)

                  -Louie B. Nunn
            -Senate races
            -Georgia
                  -S. Fletcher Thompson
                         -Projections
            -Ohio
                  -CBS projection
            -South Carolina
                  -J. Strom Thurmond
            -Tennessee
            -Texas
                  -Voter turnout
            -Vermont
            -Virginia
                  -William L. Scott

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Transcript (AI-Generated)

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David calling you, sir.
Oh, yeah.
Hi.
Hello?
Hi, David.
Yes, okay, well, we've got some word here.
Alabama's ours, and apparently Blount is going to lose.
Oh, he's out.
I thought he wouldn't be yet.
Right, about 56.44.
Connecticut is looking very good.
We've gotten some good news from Waterbury, but there are no firm.
What's Alabama?
What's the figure there?
Alabama is already given to us by CBS and NBC, but there's no margin on that right now.
Georgia is ours with 70% of the vote and none.
Democratic candidate is apparently going to win.
Illinois.
Oh, none's going to beat the damn.
Right.
Okay, Illinois is yours, 62-38.
That's their projection?
Well, one is 55-45 and the other is 62-38, but 62-38 is looking good right now.
Percy is an apparent winner at about 55-45.
We're doing a little better than he is?
Apparently, right now.
Yes, the projections varied on Percy between 53-47 and 55-45, but they don't...
They're basing this entirely on Chicago wards, I guess.
What are they basing us on then?
How do they get...
Same thing, Cook County.
Cook County, and so it's everywhere from 55 to what?
62.
So 62 could be.
But that's Cook County only or the whole state?
No, just Cook County is all we've heard from so far.
But the CBS projection is 62% in Illinois.
For the state?
Right, for the state.
And for Percy?
Apparently 50.
I'd like to see us beat him.
55, 53 to 55 right now.
That's the last I've got on it.
All right.
Indiana is ours.
None is falling behind and Kentucky is down 49-51 right now.
Well, that'll be a squeaker all time.
Looks like the Senate's tough though.
You mean, do they project Thompson lost yet or?
Yes, 62-38.
Oh boy.
So take that back 64-36, so it wasn't even really that close.
Ohio is holding at 58, and as a matter of fact, CBS has given us 61 now, 61.39.
So they've upped that.
South Carolina is ours.
Tennessee is holding.
What's the figure at Tennessee, at South Carolina?
No figure?
They've just based it on about 1%.
That's nothing.
They've projected Thurman at, what was Thurman's margin, about 62?
Thurman was in the mid-60s, about 65, 35.
So we're about the same place.
Right.
I assume.
I haven't got a hard figure on it.
And there's no word on the Texas race so far.
Apparently there's a very good turnout in Texas.
All right.
Whether that's good or bad, I'm not sure.
Vermont's ours, Virginia's ours, and Scott is leading right now in Virginia.
Good.
And that's all I've got right now.
Okay, good.
I'll let you know if we get anything else.
Bye.
Bye.
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